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Old 09-01-2015, 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by rcmiket
Once again I say it's black and you say it's white. I'm starting to get a grip on why you where asked to leave the other forums.

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If all else fails and you have nothing else to say, why not make it personal right? A transparent and weak response given an inability to accept other viewpoints, but not unexpected. It's singular though, not plural, you even got that wrong.
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Originally Posted by porcia83
If all else fails and you have nothing else to say, why not make it personal right? A transparent and weak response given an inability to accept other viewpoints, but not unexpected. It's singular though, not plural, you even got that wrong.

Your writing your own history. I have nothing to do with it.
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Originally Posted by rcmiket
We had a theft with over 4 grand in equipment stolen and we were not covered by the AMA.

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What's your point? Who is we? Are you under the impression the insurance policy offered by the AMA covers everything w/o limits?
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Originally Posted by rcmiket
Your writing your own history. I have nothing to do with it.
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Please...did I mention another website? You make a point to personally attack me and try to bring another website into this discussion, and then claim innocence. Funny. . If that's where you want to go, have at it, won't be the first or the last time. Not sure what it has to do with the AMA or dues being increased. You've been on here longer than I have, so I'm sure you know about the ignore function. If you can't deal with my comments or others in this public thread, just hit the ignore function, or better yet, just don't respond. Easy right?
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Originally Posted by rcmiket
Once again I say it's black and you say it's white. I'm starting to get a grip on why you where asked to leave the other forums.

Mike.
That's funny, especially considering your lack of meaningful contributions to this thread.
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Originally Posted by Ace Dude
What's your point? Who is we? Are you under the impression the insurance policy offered by the AMA covers everything w/o limits?
We is our club.
FYI they do offer theft up to $1000.00 but it does not pertain to club losses.
From the AMA website.

$1,000 Fire, Theft, and Vandalism Coverage for members

Never said they covered everything without limits. The only AMA insurance I even value is for the site owner and I have no clue how good that is.
No point here just relating a story.

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Originally Posted by Ace Dude
That's funny, especially considering your lack of meaningful contributions to this thread.
What you and I perceive as meaningful content is apparently different,

Mike

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Originally Posted by rcmiket
'What many (myself included) need like air to breathe is the first dollar landowner insurance for the field. That is the most important things (to me) the AMA offers."

This is probably the one and only reason I'll continue as a member.

Mike .
@porcia83 - With responses like this, I'm not sure why he's even posting here to begin with.
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Originally Posted by porcia83
If you can't deal with my comments or others in this public thread, just hit the ignore function,

and you have the same option.

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Originally Posted by rcmiket
What you and I perceive as content is apparently different,

Mike
That's specifically why I stated "meaningful" content in my original post.
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Originally Posted by Ace Dude
That's specifically why I stated "meaningful" content in my original post.
I edited my post to reflect that.
Thanks for pointing that out.

Mike;
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Originally Posted by rcmiket
We is our club.
FYI they do offer theft up to $1000.00 but it does not pertain to club losses.
From the AMA website.

$1,000 Fire, Theft, and Vandalism Coverage for members

Never said they covered everything without limits. The only AMA insurance I even value is for the site owner and I have no clue how good that is.
No point here just relating a story.

Mike
I see, so the club wasn't reimbursed because it's not covered by the insurance policy. Makes sense. So why wasn't a separate policy purchased for coverage?
Old 09-01-2015, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Ace Dude
I see, so the club wasn't reimbursed because it's not covered by the insurance policy. Makes sense. So why wasn't a separate policy purchased for coverage?

When the theft occurred we just checked with the AMA to see if the $1000 in theft insurance would cover a club loss. It does not, although I can't see why it would not since we pay $160.00 in club charter fees (paper work for two fields we insure and that number goes up in 2016). Since that theft we have taken the necessary steps in ensure we have done everything humanly possible to keep it from happening again. Live and learn.

Just curious do you feel that the AMA theft insurance should cover club losses? While our club is strong enough to rebound from a loss some smaller ones would not.

Mike

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Old 09-01-2015, 06:36 AM
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Wow, no mudslinging going here, no siree Buffalo Bob!!!!
It is all about money, we want protection, insurance companies want to sell us that protection and then when we need it, they want to mitigate their payouts to protect their bottom line. True, most states have stringent regulations on the industry, but those regulations are slanted more to protect the commerce of the industry than the consumer, simple fact of life. Insurance adjuster's are highly trained, highly trained to say "no" and hope you go away, that is it, nothing more. Sure the contractor is going to guide you in the direction of arbitration with the adjuster, maybe to the extent of even having a court make a determination on the contents of the policy and regulations, and "yes" his motives are purely for the almighty dollar, of course we are quick to forget that he needs to feed his family also and good will does little to pay the bills. The gentleman earlier that arbitrated the insurance companies decision and squeezed a significant amount of dollars more out of them was given good, sound advice from his contractor and made that insurance company honor the terms of its contract and likely the regulations that guide that industry in that State, he stood up for his rights, and that is what we all should do. It obviously was not that contractors first goat rope, luckily he shared that experience. That opinion is not very humble and "no" I'm not a contractor!
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Originally Posted by rcmiket
and you have the same option.

Mike
Right, and I exercise that when I see a post I don't want or feel the need to comment on. The difference is I don't attack you personally. Your frustration got the best of you and you lashed out and brought up a topic that has nothing to do with the thread, for no other reason than to troll me. I've agreed with you on some posts, disagreed with your comments on others, but have I gone off on you personally? I know you know the difference....anyway...carry on.
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Originally Posted by Duncman
Wow, no mudslinging going here, no siree Buffalo Bob!!!!
It is all about money, we want protection, insurance companies want to sell us that protection and then when we need it, they want to mitigate their payouts to protect their bottom line. True, most states have stringent regulations on the industry, but those regulations are slanted more to protect the commerce of the industry than the consumer, simple fact of life. Insurance adjuster's are highly trained, highly trained to say "no" and hope you go away, that is it, nothing more. Sure the contractor is going to guide you in the direction of arbitration with the adjuster, maybe to the extent of even having a court make a determination on the contents of the policy and regulations, and "yes" his motives are purely for the almighty dollar, of course we are quick to forget that he needs to feed his family also and good will does little to pay the bills. The gentleman earlier that arbitrated the insurance companies decision and squeezed a significant amount of dollars more out of them was given good, sound advice from his contractor and made that insurance company honor the terms of its contract and likely the regulations that guide that industry in that State, he stood up for his rights, and that is what we all should do. It obviously was not that contractors first goat rope, luckily he shared that experience. That opinion is not very humble and "no" I'm not a contractor!
Ya, that will happen sometimes, some times people forget it's a public thread and differences of opinions will be had. As I noted above, all occupations will have some bad apples and generate bad experiences. Insurance is tough to navigate and it's easy to cast any of the players as bad guys, from carriers' to adjusters to contractors, to body shops etc. Sometimes a lack of understanding of the process is the issue, other times (many actually), it's just a breakdown in communications. It's regrettable that you have the opinion that all adjusters are trained to say no and hop you go away, the inverse is actually the case, but I completely get where the idea comes from. For the record, I'm disagreeing with the opinion...not attacking you. There is no insurance company out there that can survive in this hypercompetitive economy who's goal is to screw people, it just isn't so. Between attorney's and departments of insurance, and other insurance companies hungry for business, the bad apples fall by the wayside quick. Most are publicly traded companies and drops in profits and new business get noticed immediately. Nothing wrong with having a strong advocate by your side to help with any type of claims, the agent is a first good place to start. I even noted that on bigger claims, it might be a good idea to hire a pro to help guide someone through a claim.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/ama-...l#post12086701
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Whooo Whoooo All right guys it's going to be flint lock pistols @ 10 paces tomorrow morning at dawn.
That should settle it for good. Hopes ya all's cans be count'n Ta 10.
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Originally Posted by HoundDog
Whooo Whoooo All right guys it's going to be flint lock pistols @ 10 paces tomorrow morning at dawn.
That should settle it for good. Hopes ya all's cans be count'n Ta 10.
https://youtu.be/hjE2sxCQ_rU

That' the limit of my weapons usage...just a tart tongue at times. Never see me pickin a pistol fight with a Texan.

+ I give up, tried to add the short clip, sometimes it works...not so much other times.

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Originally Posted by porcia83
https://youtu.be/hjE2sxCQ_rU

Never see me pickin a pistol fight with a Texan. .

Brisket Cook-off @20 paces. Loser buys the drinks.

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Originally Posted by porcia83
Ya, that will happen sometimes, some times people forget it's a public thread and differences of opinions will be had. As I noted above, all occupations will have some bad apples and generate bad experiences. Insurance is tough to navigate and it's easy to cast any of the players as bad guys, from carriers' to adjusters to contractors, to body shops etc. Sometimes a lack of understanding of the process is the issue, other times (many actually), it's just a breakdown in communications. It's regrettable that you have the opinion that all adjusters are trained to say no and hop you go away, the inverse is actually the case, but I completely get where the idea comes from. For the record, I'm disagreeing with the opinion...not attacking you. There is no insurance company out there that can survive in this hypercompetitive economy who's goal is to screw people, it just isn't so. Between attorney's and departments of insurance, and other insurance companies hungry for business, the bad apples fall by the wayside quick. Most are publicly traded companies and drops in profits and new business get noticed immediately. Nothing wrong with having a strong advocate by your side to help with any type of claims, the agent is a first good place to start. I even noted that on bigger claims, it might be a good idea to hire a pro to help guide someone through a claim.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/ama-...l#post12086701
I have learned to keep my world as simple as possible, seem to get more done that way, anytime I have gotten too complicated and winded on things resulted in people missing my point completely. With that thought in mind, however regrettable you may feel my opinion is, it is a pretty accurate assessment of the insurance industry. There is a reason you see so many ads on the tube nowadays selling insurance, there is a lot of money to be made and they all want a slice of the pie, and they only way for that industry to realize profits is to keep the income up and the outgo down, doesn't get any more complicated than that. My original point was simple and that was the first part, the second part was, don't take "no" for an answer, fight for your position whether it be AMA insurance or your auto policy. It is not accusing them of screwing people but it is accusing them of hoping you will accept their judgement and move on blindly, that is, sadly, sometimes how business is done. They don't always win that arbitration, but they always win if you don't arbitrate.
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Originally Posted by rcmiket
Brisket Cook-off @20 paces. Loser buys the drinks.

Mike
It's gonna be expensive for you, I think you're already going to be on the hook for some Texas pale ale....
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will I'm not completely alone I have my wife two boys and there 6 kids I have my hands full teaching the boys how to fly. kids now days sure know how to handle a computer radio.
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Originally Posted by HoundDog
Whooo Whoooo All right guys it's going to be flint lock pistols @ 10 paces tomorrow morning at dawn.
That should settle it for good. Hopes ya all's cans be count'n Ta 10.
Hell most folks here can't make it past 1 without marking an X.
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Originally Posted by jw4h
will I'm not completely alone I have my wife two boys and there 6 kids I have my hands full teaching the boys how to fly. kids now days sure know how to handle a computer radio.
Sounds awesome, congrats to you for getting the young ones into the hobby.
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I posted this in another thread here but figured it pertained to this one also in case some here do not check in on some if the other threads.

Districts 2,4,6.8 and 10 council seats are up for re-election next year. Those seeking re-election or those challenging for the seat will be sending out their campaign statements soon. Might get interesting.

Mike


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