Unregistered drones in the news.
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Unregistered drones in the news.
Ok this guy got caught with a large drone in a near miss with a helicopter. No it was not registered. It is interesting that the first one I know of is a flying wing not an MR.
http://www.kmjnow.com/2016/02/03/fre...-with-a-drone/
http://www.kmjnow.com/2016/02/03/fre...-with-a-drone/
#2
Nice to see that they mentioned the AMA. As far as prosecution goes technically the pilot does not have to be registered before 2/19. Curious though if they were flying FPV and not LOS my guess would be FPV because who in their right mind would even come close to flying near a police helicopter unless they just did not see it due to the limitations of field of view provided by the camera.
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Ok this guy got caught with a large drone in a near miss with a helicopter. No it was not registered. It is interesting that the first one I know of is a flying wing not an MR.
http://www.kmjnow.com/2016/02/03/fre...-with-a-drone/
http://www.kmjnow.com/2016/02/03/fre...-with-a-drone/
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Nice to see that they mentioned the AMA. As far as prosecution goes technically the pilot does not have to be registered before 2/19. Curious though if they were flying FPV and not LOS my guess would be FPV because who in their right mind would even come close to flying near a police helicopter unless they just did not see it due to the limitations of field of view provided by the camera.
#5
If I recall all the jargon from the rules... the pilot doesn't have to be registered until Feb 21 , but we are past the date where you can FLY without being registered...
I think I have that right.
I think I have that right.
#6
Now if it's actually a commercial drone being used "for hire" that's something different.
Mike
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That's not right. If you don't fly you don't have to register. I haven't registered, won't register and am still legal because I have not flown.
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date the pilot has to be registered by 2-19-16.
In any case the reporter thought this should have been registered. Probably an older model.
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Never heard of an Eagle One helicopter. When I goggled Eagle One I got a drone service called Eagle One so I figure the reporter got it confused. Does Kalifornia call their police heli's Eagle One? Maybe they should call it the Big Red One. Or Red Claw. Eagle One is just not right for Kalifornia.
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Phew!!!! Thank goodness the FAA implemented this whole registration process so that no one will endanger full scale aircraft.......................................... ...........................................oh wait.
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Never heard of an Eagle One helicopter. When I goggled Eagle One I got a drone service called Eagle One so I figure the reporter got it confused. Does Kalifornia call their police heli's Eagle One? Maybe they should call it the Big Red One. Or Red Claw. Eagle One is just not right for Kalifornia.
Eagle one is the Police Helicopter.
Many Police Departments will have their own callsigns or name for the Police Helicopters, e.g. In our State we use Polair 1, Polair 2, etc - as this makes it obvious who they are to ATC vs using the standard aircraft tail number.
This helps when you need a priority clearance.
Another example: The Orange County Sheriff's Department Helis are "Duke 1" and Duke 2"
http://www.policehelicopterpilot.com...viation-units/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E49WGc9h7JI
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Ok this guy got caught with a large drone in a near miss with a helicopter. No it was not registered. It is interesting that the first one I know of is a flying wing not an MR.
http://www.kmjnow.com/2016/02/03/fre...-with-a-drone/
http://www.kmjnow.com/2016/02/03/fre...-with-a-drone/
Just stirred the pot a little more fellows ! LOL
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Ok this guy got caught with a large drone in a near miss with a helicopter. No it was not registered. It is interesting that the first one I know of is a flying wing not an MR.
http://www.kmjnow.com/2016/02/03/fre...-with-a-drone/
http://www.kmjnow.com/2016/02/03/fre...-with-a-drone/
All aircraft except those on an FR flight Plan and inIMC must see and avoid... if R/C TOY's are to be treated like airplanes then they have the same rights as other users of the NAS.
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Part 91 GENERAL OPERATING AND FLIGHT RULES
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[TR]
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General
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Sec. 91.113
Right-of-way rules: Except water operations.
(a) Inapplicability. This section does not apply to the operation of an aircraft on water.
(b) General. When weather conditions permit, regardless of whether an operation is conducted under instrument flight rules or visual flight rules, vigilance shall be maintained by each person operating an aircraft so as to see and avoid other aircraft. When a rule of this section gives another aircraft the right-of-way, the pilot shall give way to that aircraft and may not pass over, under, or ahead of it unless well clear.
(c) In distress. An aircraft in distress has the right-of-way over all other air traffic.
(d) Converging. When aircraft of the same category are converging at approximately the same altitude (except head-on, or nearly so), the aircraft to the other's right has the right-of-way. If the aircraft are of different categories--
(1) A balloon has the right-of-way over any other category of aircraft;
[(2) A glider has the right-of-way over an airship, powered parachute, weight-shift-control aircraft, airplane, or rotorcraft.
(3) An airship has the right-of-way over a powered parachute, weight-shift-control aircraft, airplane, or rotorcraft.]
However, an aircraft towing or refueling other aircraft has the right-of-way over all other engine-driven aircraft.
(e) Approaching head-on. When aircraft are approaching each other head-on, or nearly so, each pilot of each aircraft shall alter course to the right.
(f) Overtaking. Each aircraft that is being overtaken has the right-of-way and each pilot of an overtaking aircraft shall alter course to the right to pass well clear.
(g) Landing. Aircraft, while on final approach to land or while landing, have the right-of-way over other aircraft in flight or operating on the surface, except that they shall not take advantage of this rule to force an aircraft off the runway surface which has already landed and is attempting to
make way for an aircraft on final approach. When two or more aircraft are approaching an airport for the purpose of landing, the aircraft at the lower altitude has the right-of-way, but it shall not take advantage of this rule to cut in front of another which is on final approach to land or to overtake
that aircraft.
Amdt. 91-282, Eff. 9/1/2004
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Part 91 GENERAL OPERATING AND FLIGHT RULES
[/TD][/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 50%"]Subpart B--Flight Rules[/TD]
[TD="width: 50%"]
General
[/TD][/TR]
[/TABLE]
Sec. 91.113
Right-of-way rules: Except water operations.
(a) Inapplicability. This section does not apply to the operation of an aircraft on water.
(b) General. When weather conditions permit, regardless of whether an operation is conducted under instrument flight rules or visual flight rules, vigilance shall be maintained by each person operating an aircraft so as to see and avoid other aircraft. When a rule of this section gives another aircraft the right-of-way, the pilot shall give way to that aircraft and may not pass over, under, or ahead of it unless well clear.
(c) In distress. An aircraft in distress has the right-of-way over all other air traffic.
(d) Converging. When aircraft of the same category are converging at approximately the same altitude (except head-on, or nearly so), the aircraft to the other's right has the right-of-way. If the aircraft are of different categories--
(1) A balloon has the right-of-way over any other category of aircraft;
[(2) A glider has the right-of-way over an airship, powered parachute, weight-shift-control aircraft, airplane, or rotorcraft.
(3) An airship has the right-of-way over a powered parachute, weight-shift-control aircraft, airplane, or rotorcraft.]
However, an aircraft towing or refueling other aircraft has the right-of-way over all other engine-driven aircraft.
(e) Approaching head-on. When aircraft are approaching each other head-on, or nearly so, each pilot of each aircraft shall alter course to the right.
(f) Overtaking. Each aircraft that is being overtaken has the right-of-way and each pilot of an overtaking aircraft shall alter course to the right to pass well clear.
(g) Landing. Aircraft, while on final approach to land or while landing, have the right-of-way over other aircraft in flight or operating on the surface, except that they shall not take advantage of this rule to force an aircraft off the runway surface which has already landed and is attempting to
make way for an aircraft on final approach. When two or more aircraft are approaching an airport for the purpose of landing, the aircraft at the lower altitude has the right-of-way, but it shall not take advantage of this rule to cut in front of another which is on final approach to land or to overtake
that aircraft.
Amdt. 91-282, Eff. 9/1/2004
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http://www.suasnews.com/2016/02/fres...ss-with-drone/
"The incident took place about noon as the Eagle 1 helicopter was heading to the Shaver Lake area at an altitude of 550 feet."
"The incident took place about noon as the Eagle 1 helicopter was heading to the Shaver Lake area at an altitude of 550 feet."
#25
Not sure if you are referring to the DC9 / Piper crash in Cerritos CA in 1986, if so, then the NTSB found the ATC and the pilot of the Piper at fault.
http://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/A...s/AAR8707.aspx
If it's the San Diego accident, then the crew of the 727 was faulted, but so too was ATC.
http://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/A...ts/AAR7905.pdf
http://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/A...s/AAR8707.aspx
If it's the San Diego accident, then the crew of the 727 was faulted, but so too was ATC.
http://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/A...ts/AAR7905.pdf
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