How much should members know WRT AMA finances ?
#76
The AMA is a membership organization. Direction and accountability is determined by the membership.
#77
That's not exactly true. The computer will tell you what SYSTEM OR SENSOR is giving a faulty input but it's only accurate part of the time. A faulty reading could be due to something else that is related. A misfire, for example, could be due to a bad spark plug, plug wire, ignition coil, fuel injector or, something most wouldn't expect, a camshaft, lifter, rocker or valve. A sticking valve, for example, wouldn't let the proper amount of air into the cylinder, exhaust out or hold compression, depending on which valve in the cylinder was sticking. The result could be(and has been, on one occasion) interpreted by the computer as a bad ignition circuit. Just a little FYI
#78
That's not exactly true. The computer will tell you what SYSTEM OR SENSOR is giving a faulty input but it's only accurate part of the time. A faulty reading could be due to something else that is related. A misfire, for example, could be due to a bad spark plug, plug wire, ignition coil, fuel injector or, something most wouldn't expect, a camshaft, lifter, rocker or valve. A sticking valve, for example, wouldn't let the proper amount of air into the cylinder, exhaust out or hold compression, depending on which valve in the cylinder was sticking. The result could be(and has been, on one occasion) interpreted by the computer as a bad ignition circuit. Just a little FYI
#79
I've found the computer to be nothing more than a compass that directs you to a starting point. I've only had one instance in 40+ years working on cars where the computer actually sent me right to the actual source of the problem.
#80
Umm, you do know you can buy software that you load on your laptop and see all and change all on the OBD computer? Common tool at many shops. It will tell you a lot more than the 20 dollar decoders. More than a starting point, but doesn't tell you everything. You still have to figure some of it yourself.
#81
Also they have data loggers you plug into the computer IO. For those codes which pop up and go away or pop up but car checks out. You put the datalogger in the IO and it records what is happening on a real time basis. Pop it out and look at it on your laptop and you can see what was happening when the code popped up.
#83
Also they have data loggers you plug into the computer IO. For those codes which pop up and go away or pop up but car checks out. You put the datalogger in the IO and it records what is happening on a real time basis. Pop it out and look at it on your laptop and you can see what was happening when the code popped up.
Not sure what this has to do with AMA finances, but there are plenty of car forums that would be more appropriate for this topic.
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ken,
now that barracuda is an AMA rep, will he still be allowed to moderate here in the AMA forums?
and something else that i wanted to say.
ignore is a great idea, but poorly implemented. as long as others can quote the ignorees posts, those of us trying to ignore him, are doomed to seeing his posts anyway.
now that barracuda is an AMA rep, will he still be allowed to moderate here in the AMA forums?
and something else that i wanted to say.
ignore is a great idea, but poorly implemented. as long as others can quote the ignorees posts, those of us trying to ignore him, are doomed to seeing his posts anyway.
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Ok, let me take a second to explain the situation.
1, Mongo, you're correct and I've stepped away from moderating the AMA forums here several days ago.
2. I'm an AVP that was named first alternate to District V, due to our VP having to resign due to his work and personal commitment I was asked to fill in the remainder of the term.
3. I only speak for myself, not the EC, President, or Staff at HQ. If there's a question I know the answer to I'll be happy to answer it. If I don't know I'll try my best to find out or refer you to the proper person.
Quite honestly, I'm a modeler and as some of you know a writer. Any input I will have to the EC will be based on being a long time modeler and what is best for modeling. I fly everything. Jets, gliders, helis, whatever. I've tried FPV (with a spotter) but FPV and quads aren't my things though as a photographer I find MR's useful as a tool.
I will say this in closing. I won't be participating in any of the stuff that is responsible for the majority of my hair loss moderating in here so don't try to drag me into any petty fights/arguments/mud slinging
I was proud and honored to be asked to be part of the EC and to represent the modelers in my district and I never really pictured myself being in that position. I can only hope I don't break anything between now and when the election is over
1, Mongo, you're correct and I've stepped away from moderating the AMA forums here several days ago.
2. I'm an AVP that was named first alternate to District V, due to our VP having to resign due to his work and personal commitment I was asked to fill in the remainder of the term.
3. I only speak for myself, not the EC, President, or Staff at HQ. If there's a question I know the answer to I'll be happy to answer it. If I don't know I'll try my best to find out or refer you to the proper person.
Quite honestly, I'm a modeler and as some of you know a writer. Any input I will have to the EC will be based on being a long time modeler and what is best for modeling. I fly everything. Jets, gliders, helis, whatever. I've tried FPV (with a spotter) but FPV and quads aren't my things though as a photographer I find MR's useful as a tool.
I will say this in closing. I won't be participating in any of the stuff that is responsible for the majority of my hair loss moderating in here so don't try to drag me into any petty fights/arguments/mud slinging
I was proud and honored to be asked to be part of the EC and to represent the modelers in my district and I never really pictured myself being in that position. I can only hope I don't break anything between now and when the election is over
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I made Andy a Community Moderator for RCU awhile back. Community Moderator means several things here at RCU. First, it means that their realm of power is all of the forums of RCU, they are here to assist the Moderators and move in and out of the forums of RCU looking for problems and help out when they can. Second, and this is more important than anything else, I can trust Andy to use the RCU Community Rules as his guidelines when he moderates. This means he will stay absolutely fair when he moderators, regardless of the forum that he is moderating in. So if it came down to it I would trust him to moderate in the AMA forum and still do it fairly and treat everybody equally.
Now with that being said. Both Andy and I have agreed that for the sake of how things look he will not be doing any moderating in the AMA forums. While he and I both know he can be fair, we don't want it to look like to the members that he may be moderating to back up his position in a discussion he may be having. This is the same reason why I will not participate in any discussion in the AMA forum, because I don't want anybody thinking like I can moderate my position.
So the simple answer to your question is, yes he is allowed but no he will not be moderating here in the AMA forums.
Ken
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But for the ones that can't even control themselves even if they see the posts in a quote by another member, I have a fix for that. Usually those people will get into a fight with that person. We all know who those people are here. And here's the deal, if these fights don't stop I'm going to start banning people from RCU, PERIOD. For a long time things were calm. When all of this crap from the FAA first came down on us we all united and the childish petty bickering stopped for a while. But now you all are back to it. So here is the deal, I will be the calming influence. If you all can't find a way to quit this childish petty bickering then I will. I'm going to start using more Administrative Actions including Moderated Status and Banning for those that just can't seem to control them self and want to fight whenever they read a post from somebody they don't like. So you pick what you want to do, it's entirely up to you. But you have been warned as to what I will do.
Ken
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For what it's worth, I'd happily pay way more than They ask, and not ask where the money goes. If They just had hat least half the lobbying influence the NRA has with the government. We would all know then, where the money goes! LOL
#94
They don't but would like us to believe that they do and that's the problem.
Mike
#95
The way I see it, they probably could, if they wanted to spend money like the NRA does. Then again, depending on the source and who you believe, the NRA has between 3.1 and 4.5 MILLION MEMBERS. Just like some R/C flyers that don't belong to the AMA, that is drop in the bucket compared to the 70+ million that claim to own firearms. It still comes down to the AMA's $11,000,000 as compared to the NRA's $124,000,000 annual budget, basing the NRA on $40 per year(one year subscription per the NRA website, longer ones are less expensive) at 3.1 million members.
Note to Ken:
You should feel free to add to any discussion you want. If two(or more) people are obviously at each other, you do what you have to as I doubt anyone would accuse you of underhanded methods of posting on that basis. Just like the rest of us, you adding input is a right as a forum member, regardless of your position as a moderator, in my opinion.
Note to Ken:
You should feel free to add to any discussion you want. If two(or more) people are obviously at each other, you do what you have to as I doubt anyone would accuse you of underhanded methods of posting on that basis. Just like the rest of us, you adding input is a right as a forum member, regardless of your position as a moderator, in my opinion.
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We have always avoided discussion in threads we moderate. I'm sure you can see the allure of having a delete key for posts you don't like or that are contrary to your position. It happens sometimes, moderators are humans after all and we can get offended or mad.
The best way to avoid that is to not moderate a discussion you're participating in. If we feel we need that we just call in another mod for a neutral opinion. Kind of like I would never ref my own kids hockey games despite being asked to ref more important games even by the opposing coach because apparently I was a decent ref, I just wouldn't do it because that way there was no question.
The best way to avoid that is to not moderate a discussion you're participating in. If we feel we need that we just call in another mod for a neutral opinion. Kind of like I would never ref my own kids hockey games despite being asked to ref more important games even by the opposing coach because apparently I was a decent ref, I just wouldn't do it because that way there was no question.
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Way back in the early days of RCU there was a forum that had HUGE problems and was nothing but headaches and troubles. There was endless bickering, fighting, attacking on each other, and no matter what the moderators or Forum Managers tried would not calm down. Sound familiar?? It should, it was our own beloved AMA forum. At that time Marc Vigod and Michael and Kranitz (owners of RCU at that time) were considering simply shutting down the AMA forum because it was such a hassle. Well, at that time I was on the move up as a Moderator and had been cutting my teeth as a moderator. I had just spent a good amount of time saving the RC Tank Forum that was in the same boat (on the verge of getting shut down) and had cleaned up that forum. I told Marc that I would take over the AMA forum and clean it up as well if he would like me too. He said that would rather have the forum cleaned up than to remove it for sure. So at that time he made me a Community Moderator.
Now when I came into the AMA forum I started looking at the problems that were ongoing in that old forum and one of the biggest problems that was ongoing there was that they old Moderators were also major contributors in the discussions and members felt that their posts were being deleted if the Moderators didn't agree with what was being posted. So one of my first guidelines that I put out was that I self imposed a rule that I would not participate in any discussions as long as I was moderating the AMA forum. Now there was something simple like getting a phone number to the AMA or something easy like that I would do that, but anything that was posting a point of view then I was going to stay out of it. PERIOD. And I did that because I didn't not want anybody EVER to thing that I was moderating to exercise my viewpoint. It's just that simple. It's not a rule of RCU. It's not a rule that I put on my Moderators. It's a rule that I put on myself to keep the AMA Forum fairly moderated. And up to now it has for the most it has worked. There has been very little accusations that RCU's moderation of the AMA forums are unfair. They will stay fair as long as I am the Forum Manager. Always.
I hope that clears it all up for you. If now please feel free to ask any more questions, I'll be more than happy to answer any questions you may have.
Ken
#100
Ken, To be honest I remember some of that as well. For a while, every time I came into the aircraft forum, there was someone calling out or attacking others due to whatever. I ended up staying out of this part or the forum for several years because of it. I also remember a moderator in a different part of the forums stepping down because he wanted to post his thoughts and ideas in the threads and was called out for it every time he took "corrective" action as he was deemed to be "self serving". I do understand your point and agree with your reasoning but, at the same time, I think there are times when your thoughts would be better actually put in a thread than left out. Just my opinion in this case.