Panel Lines on ARF, How?
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Panel Lines on ARF, How?
Hello, I want to draw panel lines and other detail markings on my H9 P-51 Mustang .60.
I have never done this before. I purchased a Top Flight Panel line marker and the Top Flight
rivet and panel line template.
I guess my main question is if I need to clear coat the plane after I finish all the markings?
There are no detailed intructions with the marker or suggestions.
By the way this Mustang is Electric, so I do not have to worry about the effects of fuel.
Kind Regards,
Jesse
I have never done this before. I purchased a Top Flight Panel line marker and the Top Flight
rivet and panel line template.
I guess my main question is if I need to clear coat the plane after I finish all the markings?
There are no detailed intructions with the marker or suggestions.
By the way this Mustang is Electric, so I do not have to worry about the effects of fuel.
Kind Regards,
Jesse
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RE: Panel Lines on ARF, How?
If the covering is plastic (MonoKote or similar), you'll need to clearcoat the panel lines, or they'll smear and rub off from handling. You can use Top Flite LustreCote, but just mist the first couple of coats. If you apply it too heavily, the panel lines will run. If you use Flat clear, it will dull the gloss of the cover, which IMO looks better on a warbird, or you can use the gloss clearcoat .
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RE: Panel Lines on ARF, How?
Here is a panel lined and weathered ARF done by Sharpie markers and pencil. Covering is the original Ultracote. Lot of time involved but worth it! More pictures in my gallery. Paul
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RE: Panel Lines on ARF, How?
It is called personalization! Some people like to have their planes look a little different then others at the field. I don't want to get into the ARF vs Build argument, but what is an arf anyway? Someone else has framed up a plane for you and you have the right to finish it any way you want. I have a friend that had someone frame up a Zirolli F-4U and he finished it up: glassed, paint, weathering etc, so isn't that an ARC? I have another fiend who scratch builds and will also customize ARFs with glassing and weathering. Some people who don't build but like to finish, some don't like to finish but build. Some people will buy someone else's plane and strip them down and recover and fix them. The great thing about this hobby is everyone has their own idea and opinion on their plane.
So, please with all due respect don't start with the "Why would you want to detail someone elses work?" comments
Nuff Said
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So, please with all due respect don't start with the "Why would you want to detail someone elses work?" comments
Nuff Said
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RE: Panel Lines on ARF, How?
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You can buy a canvas and paint it, you can stretch your own canvas and paint it or you can buy a painting, already painted ! That's the great thing about our little world, we have choices !
Back on subject:
I'm in the midst of trying to figure out how to panel line my new KMP Spitty. I don't want to make a huge project out of this as my partially started Yellow spit will be jealous. I was thinking to run some tape where the line goes, run a pencil down the edge and then clear coat it in. I think those pens tend to be too black and look like what they are, black lines drawn on a surface. Using something a little gray simulates darkness of the line but is not so bold it looks fake. Though a pencil would be hard to use on regular monokote !
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Oh yeah, here's my TF MKIII Arf
You can buy a canvas and paint it, you can stretch your own canvas and paint it or you can buy a painting, already painted ! That's the great thing about our little world, we have choices !
Back on subject:
I'm in the midst of trying to figure out how to panel line my new KMP Spitty. I don't want to make a huge project out of this as my partially started Yellow spit will be jealous. I was thinking to run some tape where the line goes, run a pencil down the edge and then clear coat it in. I think those pens tend to be too black and look like what they are, black lines drawn on a surface. Using something a little gray simulates darkness of the line but is not so bold it looks fake. Though a pencil would be hard to use on regular monokote !
S1
Oh yeah, here's my TF MKIII Arf
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RE: Panel Lines on ARF, How?
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I have never owned an ARF, but I have a question... Why would you want to detail someone elses work?
I have never owned an ARF, but I have a question... Why would you want to detail someone elses work?
For the same reason people deck out their motorcycles, cars etc. in aftermarket chrome and accessories. Should model airplanes be any different?
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RE: Panel Lines on ARF, How?
Mr. BalsaBandit:
I take a littel exception on people who buy and fly ARF's. Many people enjoy this hobby, and some of us have other resposibilities that don't afford the time to build kits or from scratch. As a Teacher, Husband, a father of two and Graduate student I don't have the time to give to the hobby I love. ARF's have progressively gotten better and better over the years. Some of the better ARF's out there can be detailed out and improved, to rival some the kits I have built over the years.
ARF's serve a purpose. I would argue, they may have saved this hobby, buy allowing people to get into the air quicker and be sucessful sooner, without the time and effort of building a kit. Hopefully people who come into this hobby will explore all fascets of this wonderfull hobby and build kits also!
I take a littel exception on people who buy and fly ARF's. Many people enjoy this hobby, and some of us have other resposibilities that don't afford the time to build kits or from scratch. As a Teacher, Husband, a father of two and Graduate student I don't have the time to give to the hobby I love. ARF's have progressively gotten better and better over the years. Some of the better ARF's out there can be detailed out and improved, to rival some the kits I have built over the years.
ARF's serve a purpose. I would argue, they may have saved this hobby, buy allowing people to get into the air quicker and be sucessful sooner, without the time and effort of building a kit. Hopefully people who come into this hobby will explore all fascets of this wonderfull hobby and build kits also!
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RE: Panel Lines on ARF, How?
Balsabandit suffers from a common misconception that building from a kit puts him or her on a different, somehow better plane then those who assemble ARFs. You do what your time and skills allow to arrive at your own personal level of enjoyment in this hobby. I wish these guys would climb off their high horse, especially when they are merely assembling a kit made and designed by somebody else. If you truly want to impress, draw your own plans, cut your own balsa and COMPLETELY build a scale classic from scratch. Of course at this point you are still just copying some else's design. Just relax and enjoy and let people do their own thing no matter what the level of prefabrication might be. We should all be thankful there are so many of us with common interests.
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RE: Panel Lines on ARF, How?
It is called personalization! Some people like to have their planes look a little different then others at the field. I don't want to get into the ARF vs Build argument, but what is an arf anyway? Someone else has framed up a plane for you and you have the right to finish it any way you want. I have a friend that had someone frame up a Zirolli F-4U and he finished it up: glassed, paint, weathering etc, so isn't that an ARC? I have another fiend who scratch builds and will also customize ARFs with glassing and weathering. Some people who don't build but like to finish, some don't like to finish but build. Some people will buy someone else's plane and strip them down and recover and fix them. The great thing about this hobby is everyone has their own idea and opinion on their plane.
Crash
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RE: Panel Lines on ARF, How?
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Balsabandit suffers from a common misconception that building from a kit puts him or her on a different, somehow better plane then those who assemble ARFs. You do what your time and skills allow to arrive at your own personal level of enjoyment in this hobby. I wish these guys would climb off their high horse, especially when they are merely assembling a kit made and designed by somebody else. If you truly want to impress, draw your own plans, cut your own balsa and COMPLETELY build a scale classic from scratch. Of course at this point you are still just copying some else's design. Just relax and enjoy and let people do their own thing no matter what the level of prefabrication might be. We should all be thankful there are so many of us with common interests.
Balsabandit suffers from a common misconception that building from a kit puts him or her on a different, somehow better plane then those who assemble ARFs. You do what your time and skills allow to arrive at your own personal level of enjoyment in this hobby. I wish these guys would climb off their high horse, especially when they are merely assembling a kit made and designed by somebody else. If you truly want to impress, draw your own plans, cut your own balsa and COMPLETELY build a scale classic from scratch. Of course at this point you are still just copying some else's design. Just relax and enjoy and let people do their own thing no matter what the level of prefabrication might be. We should all be thankful there are so many of us with common interests.