hyperviper89

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I was wondering if anyone knows how this plane flys and anything about it before I buy it. I was going to get the Aeroworks 60/90 arf, but I found this one that is $100 cheaper. The only real difference I have found in them is that the Seagull is not the 2 seater version. The wing span is only 1/4 inch difference. Let me know if you have any info on this model or even the company. A link is provided to view the plane.
Thanks,
~Conrad

http://horizon.hobbyshopnow.com/prod...p?prod=SEA1025

TheEdge

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and a whole lot cheaper.

I am eager to hear any feedback on this newbie

f2racer

But the real question is does it fly $100 worse? Anybody got one? Seagull definitely looks cool. Hopefully it'll fly well. I think Hanger 9 rebrands a couple of models as well. Wonder why Horizon doesn't bring them all in.

They are made in Vietnam, wonder how they compare to the other ARFs made out there (like VQ and VMAR)?

adrian-RCU

we fly several seagull models and this includes one of the new edge540's, it has big control surfaces for 3d and the quality and looks are great. seagull planes have improved greatly over the past few years and we seen and experienced it first hand, marvelous value.

hyperviper89

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Thanks, How do the wings mount? Are the tubed and removable?

Does it fly well? Thanks!

pault

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conrad.......i asked a simular question a few days ago on the arf forum ....see info on seagull models from horizon........i got some good respones from several people from england......also they gave me a web site to a hobby shop in england that had some info.......www.sussex-model-centre.co.uk
the british spell "center" this way "centre".........search seagull models and click on the edge 540 "more info".............i bought the 540 model from a hobby shop here in oklahoma...i will put a saito 100 on it ...if you like i will get back to you on it........thanks .......pault

TheEdge

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and their English,

hyperviper89

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Pault, I think I am going to get this plane and put a magnum 1.08 on it, or a tigershark 1.20. How does the plane fly? Does the saito 100 give it unlimited vertical. Does it seem to tip stall easy at low speeds? Also I really want to know how the wing mounts. Is it wing tube or what. Thanks!!!
~Conrad

pault

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hello......the wing joins the traditional way........epoxy and a dihedral brace............the section of fuselage just above the wing , unbolts and sandwiches the wing...4 wing bolts secure the wing....the assembly book is pretty basic....not alot of detail.....the saito 100 is a very powerful motor and should pull vertical forever...i have a saito 100 on a scratch built beaver, that i bought from a friend that is almost 2 lbs heavier then the 540..........it has unlimited vertical....thanks .pault
edit: check out horizonhobby.com....click on edge 540..60 arf...under hot products....pault

ptarp

Does anyone have any first-hand experience as to the vertical performance of this plane with a Saito 100(or similar 4-strokes). What throttle % will it hover. I will be learning hovering on this plane and want plenty of extra "oomph" to pull the plane out of failed hover attempts.

Any more general comments on quality/performance? How is the covering job/included hardware? Do you need hi-torque servos? Where are the servos located?

Thanks guys, this plane looks sweet, I think it gonna be my next plane(after my Sig Somethin' Extra met an untimely demise on 2nd flight; reciever failure!!!! )

Philip

ptarp

Plus, has anyone tried any 3D with this plane?

Q8 Pilot

HI
i have 1 off this the elevator is to week it brock on the air 2 time

adrian-RCU

interesting quote the last one, the elevator broke whilst hovering this sounds weird, very little load on the elevator, elevators normally fail when diving at full speed and then pulling up and most of the time you will hear the flutter before failure . about the %throttle at hover with a saytoe(saito) 100 about 60% and it will then go straight up on full off-coarse depends on prop size etc. we are now putting in a 120 2/stroke we need more. will post more on 3d after flight. covering is excellent, hardware fine but we always upgrade to dubro/greatplane hardware, we don't loose 200$+ planes for 1$ hardware and this goes for all our planes, we also always use the best servos we can afford same principal as on hardware applies, we have 2servos in tail, rudder is pull pull from cockpit also throttle with 2 in wing.

ptarp

Q8 - Could you supply any specifics on the breakage? Was it the elevator(control surface) or the stab? What maneuver were you doing? Full throttle? Any mods to the plane? Any input would be greatly appreciated

ptarp

A 120 2 stroke!!!! Not enough? Holy cow. So, I guess a 120 4-stroke would'nt be near enough then?

rkrig

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can anyone who owns one of these tell me what the real finished weight is?, I too would like to try one for 3-D with a saito 100 but I think it would need to weigh less than 8lbs. to do a good job. Thanks. Randy

adrian-RCU

we have flown it with a saito100, a91fx and yes will try the 120/2s in a week or so and we will put rear carbon strengtheners just in case.
it really flew well with both the other engines but for real 3d you need lots.

adrian-RCU

sorry about the weight it was around 8.5 lbs with the saito less with the fx will post weight with120 latter

cwoodstx

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Adrian: I just bought one, have not started it yet. The pre-cut holes for the elevator servos are offset, one is further back than the other and higher on the fuse. Looks like the pushrods will be at different angles to the control horns, one almost 90 degrees, the other more like 60 degrees.

Did you use the pre-cut holes, and if so did you have to add any differential to get the elevator halves to move in sync? With different angles the mechanical advantage will not be equal and I would think that would be evident during hard loops.

Thanks

adrian-RCU

what radio will you use

cwoodstx

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I will use a JR 8103. I use a separate port for the second elevator servo and mix it in.

ptarp

Hey, what do you think of the SuperTiger G-2300? Too much? It has 3.7hp! But, it is a brick, weighing 37.8oz. What do ya think?
It pretty cheap for this kind of power.

ptarp

adrian, you said that you have two servos in the tail? Are you using two for the elevator? Do you need to do this if you use one high torque?

adrian-RCU

yes, use good bb/mg servos like the hi-tec 424bbmg or eq, using one always sets you up with equalizing problems and many more problems in flight. we have over time had many problems with uneq tail so we modify all our bigger planes with servos in tail on our small cap(sc61engine) we have just fitted two hi-tec 81mg servos the cap had problems even at fast takeoff, now its great even on very tight loops etc,
your radio is great for this not so,
ps. make sure to have one control arm up other down if you use a y-connector also eq lenths of arm retains same output, unless your radio has a reverse function for each servo then with epa equalize

adrian-RCU

that super tiger was bench mark for a long time-now we just remember it. app st engines are no made in china so well wait and see, we still have some Italian g51's 45's and so on still great engines we also have some of the new ching engines like sc /acp and have been very impressed with how they work, perform and so far last.