shd3920

My cousin Kyle has decided he wants a foam RTF 4-channel trainer airplane ( from post http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_9602640/tm.htm ) but will go with the 3-channel if you think that choice is better for him to learn on, and wants opinions from you to decide which.

His choices are down to these two:

1) Dynam Sky Trainer 182 - 38" 4CH RC Remote Control Electric Plane w/ Brushless Motor LiPo RTF
http://www.nitroplanes.com/dyskytr1824c1.html
2) Although he has his mind set on 4-channel he will consider the Mini Super Cub RTF if you suggest it would be best to learn on a three channel.
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=HBZ4800

It has to be foam and he will not even consider a balsa RTF.

gunneredwards

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My vote is for plane #1. Learn on a 4 channel and you never have to relearn to fly and you can perform coordinated flight. My buddy has that exact cessna and loves the plane but feels the radio is lacking in fine tuning ability. Once you get good with it, it is cheap enough that you could get a better radio setup or a whole new plane and feel good about trashing this one for the experience and training.
dan

jimmyjames213

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gws slowstick
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXHCJ3&P=ML

if your interested ill post everything you need, thats just the airframe, final cost will be about 200

shd3920

More info please.
Such as what size motor? I have Eflite 400 & 450
What servos? I have some micro servos and standard size
What receiver? I have Futaba standard size

Please give more details. Including needed servos, receiver and battery pack, whether my motors would work. And please keep everything for Futaba as that is what I have for TX and dont want to buy another. Also how slow/fast it flies and lands? Hand-launch or ground?

Oh, but then I would need a stick-mount motor huh?

Thank you.

CGRetired

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If you go to the web site cited, you can figure all that out yourself.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXHCJ3&P=ML

shd3920

P.S: And why so cheap at only $28 for an ARF?

bigedmustafa

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That $28 ARF is essentially just a foam wing, foam tail assembly, a stick fuselage, and some push rods. The NPS = no power system. This is a popular option, however, as all of the necessary components needed to complete the plane can be purchased at very low cost from online retailers like Hobby King or BP Hobbies.

You'll need an electric motor, electronic speed controller (ESC), two micro servos, a propeller, a NiMH or LiPo battery suitable for the prop, motor, and ESC, and a lightweight receiver (assuming you own a transmitter) in order to get your $28 ARF to fly. For less than $100, however, a GWS Slow Stick can be built to fly very, very well.

rabidbat96

I'm in the same boat! Super EZ trainer or the switch?hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

da Rock

Cubs don't handle on the ground, nor easily get off of it (like on takeoff), no matter if they're labeled as trainers or not. Avoid them if you're looking for a trainer. They sit at such an angle not much works until they've levelled out. Getting to do that is a trick.

da Rock

Super EZ has been a good trainer for the two students I've helped that showed up with them. It's a real good idea to get as large as you can afford. The EZ flies like it's bigger than a 48" span. Yeah, it's a tail dragger like a Cub but like a lot of other tail draggers, handles way better. (different tail moments, etc do differently)

da Rock

It's built by a toy mfg, like it wasn't really supposed to fly. Something usually true about almost all really cheap foamies. Things like steering nose gear isn't close to strong enough for landings but good enough for a toy, which seems to be good enough for Chinese toy factories that put out things like that $28 dollar thing.

rabidbat96

I had no intention getting a cub! They are too ugly.

d0uglas

I'd say the Apprentice but the e-flite Timber, not yet released, looks pretty sweet, including flaps and slats (STOL), 61" wings, as3x/safe. I want to buy its wings for my Apprentice.

Doug Kaiser

Buy the Apprentice RTF and then get the Phoenix flight simulator software (just buy the software and not the software/radio combo because the Apprentice RTF will include a radio). The Phoenix simulator includes the exact same Apprentice. The simulator is extraordinarily similar to the real thing. Once you have gotten good with the simulator (take-offs, flying, and landings) switch over to the real Apprentice and you'll be flying like a pro! This is how I taught myself and my son to fly.

Phoenix Simulator: http://www.amazon.com/Phoenix-R-C-Pr...ight+simulator

Apprentice: http://www.amazon.com/Apprentice-Rea...prentice+s+15e

Syssa Pilot

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Lighter,STOL,flaps, slats. I own both, Apprentice & Timber.