What is this?
06-30-2012, 11:56 AM
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RE: What is this?
Hi,
It seems someone before You have tried to make it into a taildragger? Is it not mounting blocks for main landing gear in forward part of wing?
And as far as I can see there is still holes for retractable main landing gear in the wing?
My first thought when I saw it: Ivan Kristensen Saturn. Originally it was all balsa and construction article in Model Airplane News October 1975. But it was also kitted with fiberglass fuselage and foam wings by a company Skyglass.
Compare 3 Saturn on trentonrcflyers.com here http://www.trentonrcflyers.com/pattern/patterns2.htm
I see for example the fin and rudder upper part seems not to be like on a Saturn and that speak against Your plane is a Saturn.
Maybe a Saturn SE?
Or a Jim Kirkland Nutcracker (very rare)?
I suggest You post more pictures of the fuselage, wing and stab from different angles, that will help to be able toidentify it with morecertainty.
On the other hand if the plans say "PICES ll" I suppose that is what it is (but I have never heard of a pattern plane with that name).
Let's see what other people will suggest it is.
/Bo
It seems someone before You have tried to make it into a taildragger? Is it not mounting blocks for main landing gear in forward part of wing?
And as far as I can see there is still holes for retractable main landing gear in the wing?
My first thought when I saw it: Ivan Kristensen Saturn. Originally it was all balsa and construction article in Model Airplane News October 1975. But it was also kitted with fiberglass fuselage and foam wings by a company Skyglass.
Compare 3 Saturn on trentonrcflyers.com here http://www.trentonrcflyers.com/pattern/patterns2.htm
I see for example the fin and rudder upper part seems not to be like on a Saturn and that speak against Your plane is a Saturn.
Maybe a Saturn SE?
Or a Jim Kirkland Nutcracker (very rare)?
I suggest You post more pictures of the fuselage, wing and stab from different angles, that will help to be able toidentify it with morecertainty.
On the other hand if the plans say "PICES ll" I suppose that is what it is (but I have never heard of a pattern plane with that name).
Let's see what other people will suggest it is.
/Bo
06-30-2012, 02:26 PM
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RE: What is this?
When those not familiar with classics wind up with a model or see pictures, 9 times out of 10 they will say it's a Curare. Basically if it is a classic pattern model it's got to be a Curare as there are only 2 or 3 designs... 
If you know what I mean...
David
If you know what I mean...David
07-01-2012, 02:56 AM
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RE: What is this?
Hi,
What is the geen material that the wing is covered with? Is it some plastic material?
That must be a clue who manufactured it.
Take some photos of the drawing You saycame with the plane.
It is not a Saturn in my opinion when I see the fuselage now.
It has some traces of Mach 1 in the fuselage as well as Phoenix but it is none of these planes in my opinion.
If it is possible, place the fuselage on the wing and slide in the stab in the fuselage and
take a good photo so we can see the whole model mounted.
/Bo
What is the geen material that the wing is covered with? Is it some plastic material?
That must be a clue who manufactured it.
Take some photos of the drawing You saycame with the plane.
It is not a Saturn in my opinion when I see the fuselage now.
It has some traces of Mach 1 in the fuselage as well as Phoenix but it is none of these planes in my opinion.
If it is possible, place the fuselage on the wing and slide in the stab in the fuselage and
take a good photo so we can see the whole model mounted.
/Bo
07-01-2012, 08:51 AM
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RE: What is this?
I am going to say it's a plane from the early 70's to 75. After that, the fuselages started getting deeper and the vertical stabilizer larger for a better knife edge manuever. The wings look like they were manufactured by the same company that did the T2A with the fiberglass wing skin.
I think you're right about the mix between a Saturn and Phoenix. But other than that, I don't recognize it either.
Frank
I think you're right about the mix between a Saturn and Phoenix. But other than that, I don't recognize it either.
Frank
07-08-2012, 08:31 AM
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RE: What is this?
will post some assembled pics laterbut was able to read the designed and drawn by Dave Hale in the title box today if that is any clue ang title still appears to be
PICES ll but is written in fancy script so not sure about the I could be an O or an A
PICES ll but is written in fancy script so not sure about the I could be an O or an A
07-12-2012, 03:09 PM
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RE: What is this?
Vertical stab rake-back in early (Taurus era) planes was about 30-45 degrees, and added a significant up-elevator component to assist in spin maneuvers, since CG's were forward of later designs. Think of the rudder at 90 degrees to get the idea. In the late 70's/early 80's, a bit of rake angle (10-15 degrees) was used to compensate for the "pitch to belly" in knife edge. Much less than needed for the earlier spin stuff. This places your model square in the 1975-82 age range.
Of course, some designers just thought it looked cool.................
Of course, some designers just thought it looked cool.................
07-14-2012, 06:17 PM
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RE: What is this?
Adjusting the image i'm getting PISCES II
It's mentionsd as SPA legal design 65-75 [link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_9921223/anchors_9922133/mpage_1/key_/anchor/tm.htm#9922133]CLICK HERE FOR LINK[/link]
It's mentionsd as SPA legal design 65-75 [link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_9921223/anchors_9922133/mpage_1/key_/anchor/tm.htm#9922133]CLICK HERE FOR LINK[/link]
