Engine For Kwik FLi Mk. III
12-17-2010, 05:18 AM
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RE: Engine For Kwik FLi Mk. III
A few months ago I found an Enya 60 III R/C NIB! Then on the same day I found a plan for the Kwik-Fli III.
Since then I have been building and reading the threads in Classic RC Pattern Flying.
What I have ended up with is the aircraft you see in the photos.
All I am waiting for now is some warmer weather to see how she flies.
I am new to patern flying so my test pilot will be Steve Dunning
Since then I have been building and reading the threads in Classic RC Pattern Flying.
What I have ended up with is the aircraft you see in the photos.
All I am waiting for now is some warmer weather to see how she flies.
I am new to patern flying so my test pilot will be Steve Dunning
12-17-2010, 06:04 AM
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RE: Engine For Kwik FLi Mk. III
That is a beautiful classic. I used to fly a Kwik Fli III back in about 1970 in Germany. Was probably my most memorable model of all time. I have been thinking about building another one here in Abu Dhabi. The RTFs are nice, but I think it is time to build again. Congrats on a great build. Let us know how the first flight goes.
12-17-2010, 09:28 AM
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That is one fine looking Kwik Fli RAF P! Nice Job! [sm=thumbs_up.gif] Would look even better with a canopy! 
What did you cover it with?
RG
What did you cover it with?
RG
12-17-2010, 12:06 PM
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RE: Engine For Kwik FLi Mk. III
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That is one fine looking Kwik Fli RAF P! Nice Job! [sm=thumbs_up.gif] Would look even better with a canopy!
What did you cover it with?
RG
That is one fine looking Kwik Fli RAF P! Nice Job! [sm=thumbs_up.gif] Would look even better with a canopy!
What did you cover it with?
RG
True it will look better if and when I find one.
She is just covered with ORA COVER or I think you may know it as ProFilm.
RAF P
12-17-2010, 05:25 PM
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RE: Engine For Kwik FLi Mk. III
Sig has canopies and so does http://www.homeandhobbysolutions.com/.
Even though the latter used Sig canopies at one time they would be my choice
as the source. The KFIII canopy is quite large (long) and they know what the
proper size is. As you may know they also supply a fine kit of the model along with others as well.
I have enough time on KFIIIs to know that knife edge is an horizon to horizon maneuver
with Phil's canopy measurement.
Today, generally you see KFIIIs with a canopy size way too small, just as Graupner's model exhibits.
The original canopy choice was no mistake !
Even though the latter used Sig canopies at one time they would be my choice
as the source. The KFIII canopy is quite large (long) and they know what the
proper size is. As you may know they also supply a fine kit of the model along with others as well.
I have enough time on KFIIIs to know that knife edge is an horizon to horizon maneuver
with Phil's canopy measurement.
Today, generally you see KFIIIs with a canopy size way too small, just as Graupner's model exhibits.
The original canopy choice was no mistake !
12-17-2010, 06:27 PM
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RE: Engine For Kwik FLi Mk. III
FYI Enya Direct still sells the Enya 60-III it is the CL version you need to order the RC carb as a seprate part also the Muffler and if you want to screw the muffler to the crankcase you need to drill and tap the crankcase
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12-18-2010, 03:28 AM
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Hi,
This person in Germany sell excellent copies of Graupner Kwik Fly MK 3 canopies if someone should need it:
Marcel Trube, e-mail: best_pilot @ gmx.de
He has many other canopies also.
I bought a Kwik Fly MK 3 canopy from him some time ago and quality is excellent.
Cost was 14.40 Euro (US $19.15) plus shipping cost.
Canopy dimensions:
Length: 290 millimeter (11.42 inch)
Width: 82 mm (3.23 inch)
Height: 50 mm (1.97 inch)
/Bo
12-18-2010, 08:15 AM
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RE: Engine For Kwik FLi Mk. III
bem, Ilikebipes, tweedy, onewasp, stuntflyr, R_G, jlingrel,
Thank you all for your comments on my Kwik-Fli (it being my first post and all) plus the new info etc.
onewasp,
thanks for the knife edge info as like I said I am new to pattern flying (and a bit long in the tooth) so when I do my first knife edge
I will let you know.
tweedy,
thanks for the engine info. I looked into putting a bolt on muffler then found the the one you see fitted and I didn't really trust myself to drill and tap with so little meat about the exhaust.
bem,
I have a son who lives in Germany so I will get him to have a look in the new year. Thanks.
RAF-P
Thank you all for your comments on my Kwik-Fli (it being my first post and all) plus the new info etc.
onewasp,
thanks for the knife edge info as like I said I am new to pattern flying (and a bit long in the tooth) so when I do my first knife edge
I will let you know.tweedy,
thanks for the engine info. I looked into putting a bolt on muffler then found the the one you see fitted and I didn't really trust myself to drill and tap with so little meat about the exhaust.
bem,
I have a son who lives in Germany so I will get him to have a look in the new year. Thanks.
RAF-P
12-18-2010, 09:06 AM
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RE: Engine For Kwik FLi Mk. III
Graupner has the canopy as a [link=http://www.graupner.de/de/products/9393.1/product.aspx]spare part[/link] for the new KFIII ARF (maybe not in stock though).
12-22-2010, 08:14 AM
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Several months ago, I supplied an original KF MKIII canopy from my Top Flite kit to Park Flyer Plastics (along with several other classic pattern ships) to make a mold from. Sparky (Keith) does an outstanding job of pulling canopies. Contact him for a canopy, you won't be disappointed.
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RE: Engine For Kwik FLi Mk. III
Hi,
Ref my Kwik Flight at Post 52, she had her first flight last Wednesday. The test flight was carreid out by a friend of mine Steve Dunning. I am glad to say she flew just great, no trim required. Had a little problem at take off, this was caused by the main legs being a bit to long so she didn't want to unstick without a little too much up elevator!!! We didn't have time for another flight as the weather suddenly turned for the worse.
The canopy arrived yesterday so the next time I take her to the field I will hopefully get a photo both on the ground and flying. New main legs and canopy fitted!!!
Ref my Kwik Flight at Post 52, she had her first flight last Wednesday. The test flight was carreid out by a friend of mine Steve Dunning. I am glad to say she flew just great, no trim required. Had a little problem at take off, this was caused by the main legs being a bit to long so she didn't want to unstick without a little too much up elevator!!! We didn't have time for another flight as the weather suddenly turned for the worse.
The canopy arrived yesterday so the next time I take her to the field I will hopefully get a photo both on the ground and flying. New main legs and canopy fitted!!!
02-19-2011, 11:47 AM
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The canopy arrived yesterday so the next time I take her to the field I will hopefully get a photo both on the ground and flying. New main legs and canopy fitted!!!
Brian
02-22-2011, 06:56 PM
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RE: Engine For Kwik FLi Mk. III
Hi Guys,
I just happened across this forum and noticed the Quick Fly III. I have one built from the original Graupner kit back in the early '70s I think. I ran a OS Gold Head .60 in it for years and now have an equivalent electric motor and a 6 series 4200 lipoly pack for power. The interesting part is that with the larger prop it pulls better and is almost as fast. After years and years of wiping off the grease and grim I still have the urge to wipe it down now and then.
I have put a larger canopy on it compared to the very small one, that if memory serves me right, was in the box. I got the box from another modeler so I am not too sure that all of the parts are original. In the photo I don't have the electric motor and upper part of the cowl mounted. I had tried a .90 sized electric motor but I couldn't put a big enough prop on it to be viable and clear the runway. So I went beck to the .60 equivalent and got prop speed back.
It is a delightful flying machine. I do wish it had separate wing aileron servos instead of the bellcranks. No matter how good the hardware was at the time there is just a little bit of slop in the system. We have gotten spoiled with modern equipment and methods. I take it out to the flying field most of the time I go. This winter I put a hatch on the top of the fuse over the wing where the batteries are mounted. So I won't have to remove the wing to change batteries anymore.
I do recommend the machine to anyone - it is a great flying airplane.
Ben Lanterman
I just happened across this forum and noticed the Quick Fly III. I have one built from the original Graupner kit back in the early '70s I think. I ran a OS Gold Head .60 in it for years and now have an equivalent electric motor and a 6 series 4200 lipoly pack for power. The interesting part is that with the larger prop it pulls better and is almost as fast. After years and years of wiping off the grease and grim I still have the urge to wipe it down now and then.
I have put a larger canopy on it compared to the very small one, that if memory serves me right, was in the box. I got the box from another modeler so I am not too sure that all of the parts are original. In the photo I don't have the electric motor and upper part of the cowl mounted. I had tried a .90 sized electric motor but I couldn't put a big enough prop on it to be viable and clear the runway. So I went beck to the .60 equivalent and got prop speed back.
It is a delightful flying machine. I do wish it had separate wing aileron servos instead of the bellcranks. No matter how good the hardware was at the time there is just a little bit of slop in the system. We have gotten spoiled with modern equipment and methods. I take it out to the flying field most of the time I go. This winter I put a hatch on the top of the fuse over the wing where the batteries are mounted. So I won't have to remove the wing to change batteries anymore.
I do recommend the machine to anyone - it is a great flying airplane.
Ben Lanterman
02-23-2011, 02:26 AM
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John,
I remember your KwikFly (in Germany) very well. I also remember that you flew it like a maniac. I don't suppose that you'd like to retell the "very low, inverted pass" story? When are you coming home?
Greg
I remember your KwikFly (in Germany) very well. I also remember that you flew it like a maniac. I don't suppose that you'd like to retell the "very low, inverted pass" story? When are you coming home?
Greg
02-23-2011, 04:59 AM
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RE: Engine For Kwik FLi Mk. III
The inverted passes didn't get really insane until I took you KwikFli 4 to Michigan and went so low that I ground off the head on that wonderful Webra Black head. Loved that airplane.
Teri is going back to the states tomorrow morning. I don't know if I am going to make it this year, but next year for sure. We are very busy and our training schedule will about triple in the next couple of weeks. I will keep you informed.
"When inverted, down is up and up is expensive."
John
Teri is going back to the states tomorrow morning. I don't know if I am going to make it this year, but next year for sure. We are very busy and our training schedule will about triple in the next couple of weeks. I will keep you informed.
"When inverted, down is up and up is expensive."
John
02-23-2011, 06:20 AM
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Hi
Just a bit more info ref my aileron fit, I fitted two servos. Since a little while back when I had a slop problem on a "Funster" low wing trainer I now try to do this mod/build to all my plans that call for one servo.
Going by what you all have to say I am really looking forward to the better weather to have fun flying her.
Just a bit more info ref my aileron fit, I fitted two servos. Since a little while back when I had a slop problem on a "Funster" low wing trainer I now try to do this mod/build to all my plans that call for one servo.
Going by what you all have to say I am really looking forward to the better weather to have fun flying her.
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RE: Engine For Kwik FLi Mk. III
One additional thing you might want to do is to add an airfoil to the horizontal and vertical tails. I have read where this stops the so called Quick Fly dance. I do notice this at times with mine - it isn't much of a wiggle and you kinda have to be looking for it to see it but indeed it's there - it shows up as a very small yaw/pitch oscillation at high speeds.
Mine is finished of course but I have thought about putting a strip of balsa on the top and bottom of the horizontal tail - just tack glued onto the existing Monokote. Then I would put Monokote over that to end up with a diamond shaped horizontal tail. If it didn't work I could easily remove it. I would also do it on the vertical tail.
Interesting stuff....
Ben
Mine is finished of course but I have thought about putting a strip of balsa on the top and bottom of the horizontal tail - just tack glued onto the existing Monokote. Then I would put Monokote over that to end up with a diamond shaped horizontal tail. If it didn't work I could easily remove it. I would also do it on the vertical tail.
Interesting stuff....
Ben