Why Futaba does not offer BNF?????
12-26-2011, 09:55 AM
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ORIGINAL: pilotpete2
Hi Rich,
Futaba does sell a S-FHSS module that is physically identical the the TM-7 & 8 that should work in any of same transmitters.[8D]
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXBHZT&P=0
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Pete
Hi Rich,
Futaba does sell a S-FHSS module that is physically identical the the TM-7 & 8 that should work in any of same transmitters.[8D]
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXBHZT&P=0
Best Regards,
Pete
If I want to use Futaba 2.4 Ineed two modlues. One for FASST and one for FHSS and S-FHSS. Correct?
No wonder Spektrum dominates the market. Futaba is both expensive and inconvenient.
Now Ihave to understand the difference between FASST and FHSS/S-FHSS. Can anyone clarify this for me? Even though Ifly a Futaba Radio ( actually 2 9C Supers) Ihave not followed their 2.4 because of the cost.
12-27-2011, 10:40 AM
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Let me be sure I understand.
If I want to use Futaba 2.4 I need two modlues. One for FASST and one for FHSS and S-FHSS. Correct?
No wonder Spektrum dominates the market. Futaba is both expensive and inconvenient.
Now I have to understand the difference between FASST and FHSS/S-FHSS. Can anyone clarify this for me? Even though I fly a Futaba Radio ( actually 2 9C Supers) I have not followed their 2.4 because of the cost.
Let me be sure I understand.
If I want to use Futaba 2.4 I need two modlues. One for FASST and one for FHSS and S-FHSS. Correct?
No wonder Spektrum dominates the market. Futaba is both expensive and inconvenient.
Now I have to understand the difference between FASST and FHSS/S-FHSS. Can anyone clarify this for me? Even though I fly a Futaba Radio ( actually 2 9C Supers) I have not followed their 2.4 because of the cost.
I do not find changing transmitter modules inconvenient as I now switch between 2.4 and 72 on my 14MZ thus utilizing all of my existing equipment.
12-27-2011, 12:46 PM
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I don't see Futaba being any more expensive than other radios. The 8FGS 14 channel radio is under $500 with the RX. The Spektrum DX8 comes in around $410 with RX, but is only 8 channels. The trade off between channels though is the built in telemetry on the Spektrum. If you get an 8FGS before the end of the year, the price difference is offset with the free second 7CH RX.
Other high end radios with 9+ channels exceeds the 8FGS price by several hundred. The only other radio in the under $500 ballpark is the Hitec radio.
You get what you pay for. I have a DX6i which is perfect for all BNF craft as I have yet to see one with more than 6 channels needed. For the larger planes I use the Futaba, then I can go Futaba all the way and not have to fiddle with the servo connections to make them work with the Spektrum RX.
However, it would be nice to be able to use the same RX with different TX, but we all know that is going to be a hard one to make happen.
12-27-2011, 01:46 PM
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I don't see Futaba being any more expensive than other radios.The 8FGS 14 channel radio is under $500 with the RX. The Spektrum DX8 comes in around $410 with RX, but is only 8 channels. The trade off between channels though is the built in telemetry on the Spektrum. If you get an 8FGS before the end of the year, the price difference is offset with the free second 7CH RX.
I don't see Futaba being any more expensive than other radios.The 8FGS 14 channel radio is under $500 with the RX. The Spektrum DX8 comes in around $410 with RX, but is only 8 channels. The trade off between channels though is the built in telemetry on the Spektrum. If you get an 8FGS before the end of the year, the price difference is offset with the free second 7CH RX.
Other high end radios with 9+ channels exceeds the 8FGS price by several hundred. The only other radio in the under $500 ballpark is the Hitec radio.
You get what you pay for. I have a DX6i which is perfect for all BNF craft as I have yet to see one with more than 6 channels needed. For the larger planes I use the Futaba, then I can go Futaba all the way and not have to fiddle with the servo connections to make them work with the Spektrum RX.
However, it would be nice to be able to use the same RX with different TX, but we all know that is going to be a hard one to make happen.
And, of course, the Spektrum module flies all the BnF models too.
12-27-2011, 04:34 PM
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RE: Why Futaba does not offer BNF?????
From 7 channels up, the difference in price between Spektrum and Futaba receivers has been slim to none. True, for now they're cutting the prices on remaining DSM2 stock until they're gone.
For a full range DSMX/DSM2 6 channel or a 6 channel parkflyer receiver, Spektrum is 15 bucks higher than the competing Futaba S-FHSS, that's comparing MSRP.
Pete
For a full range DSMX/DSM2 6 channel or a 6 channel parkflyer receiver, Spektrum is 15 bucks higher than the competing Futaba S-FHSS, that's comparing MSRP.
Pete
12-28-2011, 06:18 AM
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RE: Why Futaba does not offer BNF?????
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I like to compare the competition between Hco and HH to a drag race.HH turns up with a Tesla sportscar and Hco. with a Bugatti.
The tesla gets away from the start block fast due to all the talk available. The Hco Bugatti's driver is still tapping his feet to Leonard Cohen's Halleluja.
Then just as the Tesla hits top speed somewhere around 20m from the startline it swerves uncontrollably to the right before crashing into the barrier, the Veyron screams away, passes the TEsla and wins the race.
Halleluja still ringing over the Bose speakers with a soft female telemetry voice telling you engine temps.
The Tesla driver says he lost signal somewhere along the straight but the technicians dismiss that idea and blame the driver for not pushing the pedal hard enough and fidling with the gadgets on the steering wheel instead of driving.
I like to compare the competition between Hco and HH to a drag race.HH turns up with a Tesla sportscar and Hco. with a Bugatti.
The tesla gets away from the start block fast due to all the talk available. The Hco Bugatti's driver is still tapping his feet to Leonard Cohen's Halleluja.
Then just as the Tesla hits top speed somewhere around 20m from the startline it swerves uncontrollably to the right before crashing into the barrier, the Veyron screams away, passes the TEsla and wins the race.
Halleluja still ringing over the Bose speakers with a soft female telemetry voice telling you engine temps.
The Tesla driver says he lost signal somewhere along the straight but the technicians dismiss that idea and blame the driver for not pushing the pedal hard enough and fidling with the gadgets on the steering wheel instead of driving.
Steve
12-28-2011, 06:22 AM
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RE: Why Futaba does not offer BNF?????
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To be clear, Futaba is not doing the FTR. Great Planes/Hobbico is doing them. They have an arrangement with Futaba that allows them to do so. But Futaba itself is not doing the planes.
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I have my 6J waiting for what Futaba has to offer with the FTR's. We'll see soon...........[img][/img]
I have my 6J waiting for what Futaba has to offer with the FTR's. We'll see soon...........[img][/img]
To be clear, Futaba is not doing the FTR. Great Planes/Hobbico is doing them. They have an arrangement with Futaba that allows them to do so. But Futaba itself is not doing the planes.
You are almost right. Hobbico will certainly be doing FTR products; but so will many other manufacturers throughout the world. This is the real key to the success of FTR products.
Climb on board, it's going to be a very fun ride!
Steve
12-28-2011, 08:24 AM
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You are almost right. Hobbico will certainly be doing FTR products; but so will many other manufacturers throughout the world. This is the real key to the success of FTR products.
Climb on board, it's going to be a very fun ride!
Steve
ORIGINAL: Silent-AV8R
To be clear, Futaba is not doing the FTR. Great Planes/Hobbico is doing them. They have an arrangement with Futaba that allows them to do so. But Futaba itself is not doing the planes.
ORIGINAL: frivera12
I have my 6J waiting for what Futaba has to offer with the FTR's. We'll see soon...........[img][/img]
I have my 6J waiting for what Futaba has to offer with the FTR's. We'll see soon...........[img][/img]
To be clear, Futaba is not doing the FTR. Great Planes/Hobbico is doing them. They have an arrangement with Futaba that allows them to do so. But Futaba itself is not doing the planes.
You are almost right. Hobbico will certainly be doing FTR products; but so will many other manufacturers throughout the world. This is the real key to the success of FTR products.
Climb on board, it's going to be a very fun ride!
Steve
It seems to me the point still remains that it is not Futaba itself who is doing the FTR.
12-28-2011, 08:56 AM
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RE: Why Futaba does not offer BNF?????
Well, yes and no. The program is Futaba, but the aircraft/vehicles will be another manufacturer.
Steve
Steve
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It seems to me the point still remains that it is not Futaba itself who is doing the FTR.
ORIGINAL: Skaluf
You are almost right. Hobbico will certainly be doing FTR products; but so will many other manufacturers throughout the world. This is the real key to the success of FTR products.
Climb on board, it's going to be a very fun ride!
Steve
ORIGINAL: Silent-AV8R
To be clear, Futaba is not doing the FTR. Great Planes/Hobbico is doing them. They have an arrangement with Futaba that allows them to do so. But Futaba itself is not doing the planes.
ORIGINAL: frivera12
I have my 6J waiting for what Futaba has to offer with the FTR's. We'll see soon...........[img][/img]
I have my 6J waiting for what Futaba has to offer with the FTR's. We'll see soon...........[img][/img]
To be clear, Futaba is not doing the FTR. Great Planes/Hobbico is doing them. They have an arrangement with Futaba that allows them to do so. But Futaba itself is not doing the planes.
You are almost right. Hobbico will certainly be doing FTR products; but so will many other manufacturers throughout the world. This is the real key to the success of FTR products.
Climb on board, it's going to be a very fun ride!
Steve
It seems to me the point still remains that it is not Futaba itself who is doing the FTR.
12-28-2011, 05:17 PM
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Well, yes and no. The program is Futaba, but the aircraft/vehicles will be another manufacturer.
Steve
Well, yes and no. The program is Futaba, but the aircraft/vehicles will be another manufacturer.
Steve
12-29-2011, 04:55 AM
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RE: Why Futaba does not offer BNF?????
Futaba never builds airplanes, cars or boats, U-boats or other as far as I know. They are radio equipment specialists. Thats the technology that makes all the other stuff possible.
Sonpo they don't build the vehicles but it is their programme. i.e. they have the agreement with RC hobby distributors to make available certain chassis capable of being outfitted with Futaba technology from the factory.
12-29-2011, 12:16 PM
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RE: Why Futaba does not offer BNF?????
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Well that sort of clears it up. It is their "program" but they are not building any of the actual aircraft or vehicles.
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Well, yes and no. The program is Futaba, but the aircraft/vehicles will be another manufacturer.
Steve
Well, yes and no. The program is Futaba, but the aircraft/vehicles will be another manufacturer.
Steve
It has always been clear. Futaba builds the TX's and the other manufacturers the airplanes.............
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RE: Why Futaba does not offer BNF?????
as I predicted,
Tx-R is here to join Rx-R. Better still, there a compatibility with quite a large number of non Futaba Tx 
This is the Hobbico product and I think I like it.
This is the Hobbico product and I think I like it.
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RE: Why Futaba does not offer BNF?????
Very nice!
Hobbico just put up a video on youtube about it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht6j_Sw52_w
Hobbico just put up a video on youtube about it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht6j_Sw52_w
01-14-2012, 08:04 AM
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Interesting approach- not like the Spektrum approach-which is still in a class by it's self.
If I read it correctly - it is yet another tx module which will convert some TX into a 2.4 setup which then operates a new brand of rx.
Unless I missed something - the rx are quite a bit larger than the 6400 types Spektrum offers.
Maybe this approach will find interested parties.
This product is apparantly not a Futaba item-.
Perhaps it is Hobbico' answer to Spektrum -
Anybody REALLY know what is going on here?
If I read it correctly - it is yet another tx module which will convert some TX into a 2.4 setup which then operates a new brand of rx.
Unless I missed something - the rx are quite a bit larger than the 6400 types Spektrum offers.
Maybe this approach will find interested parties.
This product is apparantly not a Futaba item-.
Perhaps it is Hobbico' answer to Spektrum -
Anybody REALLY know what is going on here?
01-14-2012, 10:06 AM
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RE: Why Futaba does not offer BNF?????
instead of fanboying Rectum into the discussion why not read the previous posts.
Its Hobbico's way of making aircrafts from any manufacturer compatible with a cost effective system.
It is not Futaba Transmitter Ready (FTR) just as Rx-R is not Futaba (its Hobbico)
Yes its a module but one that is able to work with dedicated 2.4GHz radio, not a module based radio. So it's module for FM and 2.4systems
01-14-2012, 03:23 PM
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RE: Why Futaba does not offer BNF?????
This concept is great but looking at the big picture the 6J was not really needed, my 6EX can do the trick. Better was getting a DX6-7 and having the best of worlds
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RE: Why Futaba does not offer BNF?????
yip and you're not bound to rhymes with rec......
There some good options coming available in 2012. FTR with FHSS/SFHSS may ultimately be what I opt for to fly my foamies and slope gliders. The lack of an external aerial on the 8J is a cunning plan for not getting the antenna hooked on bush and scrubs where we fly.
The Tx-R is a fantastically cost effective option though!! and its a great cross over product.
It still does not make Horizon's BNF and Futaba FTR cross compatible though but theres always PNP and Rx-R for those folks
01-15-2012, 08:33 AM
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RE: Why Futaba does not offer BNF?????
So, is there a module for my 6EX? Then I can use it for a couple of PZ micros I have? And, is there a module for my older DX6 (no i, just 6)?
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RE: Why Futaba does not offer BNF?????
I understand that you buy one module and two different connector sets; One for the T6EX to the Tactic module and one for your DX6 to the Tacic module.
2 connectors
1 module.
you need to use tactic Rx's of course