Allowing gust at your field
A "guest" is some one who is visiting, they are welcome at our club when they come to the area visiting or what ever, just a board member needs to know about it ahead of time. The random walk up is welcome too, just doesn't happen very often
Now a "potential member" is something else, those are people who live in the area, they can come a few times to see if the want to join, like the layout etc., but not over and over endlessly.
They can always come to the open events. AMA required in all cases of course
From our club by-laws.
Guests
Radio-Controlled aircraft at the Cxxxx Bxxxx Airport are permitted to be flown by Bxxxxx Aeros members only and by their guests who are an AMA members, having signed the guest register with their current AMA number and are accompanied by the inviting Aeros member. Any single guest is limited to two (2) occasions per month and should be encouraged to apply for membership in the Bxxxxx Aeros.
Out of town Guests
Guests whose primary residence is outside of the Txxx Cities area will be afforded the privilege of flying any time with a host member for up to a two (2) week period each year.
These are people that live in the area that keep coming with a member to fly ! if that the case why should i pay my dues i can keep coming as a Guest !
If you're going to play, you need to pay; because someone has to. Why should everyone else in the club pay THEIR dues so you can fly. There is a considerable amount of money spent in maintaining the field, and in many cases permits that must be paid for.
Les
We did have one "guest" that kept saying he was going to join(our membership officer will take small payments for those that can't shell out a whole $80 at once).. and he went about 4 months without paying, he just kept making excuses.. and taking advantage of it.. all the while bringing brand new planes out to fly.. hmm.. he can afford new planes.. but he can't pay his dues.. that didn't go over well with a particular gruff member... and he communicated it very well.. The "guest" or "potential member" as he tried to make us think, packed up and left that day.. that was 10yrs ago.. I havent' seen him since...
The way I see it is the members of our club are friends of mine... and its not fair if I didn't pay my dues.. not fair if anyone else doesn't pay dues.. and if it becomes an issue, it should be dealt with accordingly.. each case and club might be different though. I do think though most clubs would work with potential members if money/funds are tight. There should be some sort of agreement, or timeline for payment though.
For me - I'd be ok to pay a certain amount as a guest per visit or week until you reached the yearly dues.
Another problem here is - do you prorate the dues if someone joins later in the season?
A new pilot will be asked to join after a few visits and training on the buddy box.
Since we are a very small club and our dues are not really high, we have not had any issues.
For a bigger club, there should be some rules as well as a 'probation period',
some guys (very few though) can't play nice. To avoid any trouble, the procedure
and due refund - in case someone gets banned - should be in the bylaws
And gust is always at our field. Shows up whenever he wants and breaks our planes.
DGrant- It sounds like good riddance of the potential ''member'' you had. If he was so entitled that he actually got offended when someone called him out for not paying his dues he's also the sort who will leave messes, break things without paying for them, fly inconsiderately, and complain about everything. Clubs who allow this behavior in the mindset of being nice or just appreciating having a new guy to enjoy the hobby wind up full of entitled kids. The clubs with standards may stay a little smaller, at least for a time, but they'll have quality people and will wind up being the club everyone wants to be a part of.
He wasn't a bad guy, matter of fact, he got along decently with everyone(probably why he lasted as long as he did)..... until someone got tired of his freeloading. His little 5yr old kid on the other hand was a winey, screamy, spoiled rotten little brat that nobody liked.. not even me.. and I like kids alot. The guy had his priorities all mixed up though.
We have a good bunch right now... I don't really know alot of them like I did back then.. so many come and go.. Those that have been there for a while(I'm going on about 20yrs) all know one another.. and we all try and meet and get to know one another and new people.. but its tough when everyone goes at different times and days... its all ebb and flow though... which brings up an interesting point...
The bigger problem, and why this might be occuring.. nobody really knows how many times, or how long someones been using the field.. and with schedules being what they are.. it sometimes takes a while to figure out if someones "freeflying".... Our club just goes by the "30 day" rule.. The clubs that say "3 times" might have a tough time though.. unless theres someone there every day to police it... We have 180 members that use the field all different days and hours.. every day morning til evening(sometimes night flying too).. it wouldn't be hard for someone to get away with it for a while... and although its frustrating... life as we know won't end over it.. its just one of these things that every club has to deal with.
Jon