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02-15-2010, 03:51 PM
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RE: Airliners
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No.. but I can make one for ~4-5k... airframe only
With what new light weight engines and new materials it would be a lot better.
No.. but I can make one for ~4-5k... airframe only
With what new light weight engines and new materials it would be a lot better.
02-15-2010, 04:08 PM
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That is for a 12 foot DC-10... ready to fly... unpainted... You supply servoes, engines.. ect
Any new design like Airbus 330-200... would require more design work depending on engine size.
What up David.... do you still fly jets...
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02-15-2010, 04:27 PM
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RE: Airliners
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That is for a 12 foot DC-10... ready to fly... unpainted... You supply servoes, engines.. ect
Any new design like Airbus 330-200... would require more design work depending on engine size.
What up David.... do you still fly jets...
Eddie
That is for a 12 foot DC-10... ready to fly... unpainted... You supply servoes, engines.. ect
Any new design like Airbus 330-200... would require more design work depending on engine size.
What up David.... do you still fly jets...
Eddie
What size turbines did you use in the DC-10, and how many servoes are needed for the DC-10?
02-15-2010, 06:17 PM
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Why did you use two turbines on your DC-10?
Using a single turbine in the tail saves a lot of money and unnecessary weight. There are several DC-10/MD-11 models flying in Europe and all of them have only one turbine.
Using a single turbine in the tail saves a lot of money and unnecessary weight. There are several DC-10/MD-11 models flying in Europe and all of them have only one turbine.
02-15-2010, 07:07 PM
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RE: Airliners
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I used 2 x 28 lbs AMT.... 2 x P80 would make a somewhat smaller plane..... Far lighter though... 40-50 lbs
I used 2 x 28 lbs AMT.... 2 x P80 would make a somewhat smaller plane..... Far lighter though... 40-50 lbs
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RE: Airliners
I don't like one engine in the tail because they you have to add %80 of the weight of the engine to the nose.
Its far better to have the heavy things like engines and fuel on the wing near the CG then everything else is just along for the ride..
On the Dc-10 the 12 fuse weighed ~13 lbs... with the elevators.... Very light.... The center section with gear, engines, fuel tanks and batteries was 30 lbs
and they were mounted to the strongest part of the plane...
This type of design makes getting the thrust to weight of 1:1 possible
P80s are fine for a 12 foot model... The second DC-10 I built had Ram1000s for a while then later I put P80s or P120s.... I don't remember.
But if the plane was designed for P80s I would use less glass here and there.... it would work well...
My AMTs were 5lbs each.... Today, you can get stronger motors that are 2-3 lbs and burn far less fuel, so a new Large airliner could really out perform
the first DC-10.... which to this day... I have not seen a video of any large plane fly with such power and do 8 point rolls.
Pics of second DC-10
Eddie
Its far better to have the heavy things like engines and fuel on the wing near the CG then everything else is just along for the ride..
On the Dc-10 the 12 fuse weighed ~13 lbs... with the elevators.... Very light.... The center section with gear, engines, fuel tanks and batteries was 30 lbs
and they were mounted to the strongest part of the plane...
This type of design makes getting the thrust to weight of 1:1 possible
P80s are fine for a 12 foot model... The second DC-10 I built had Ram1000s for a while then later I put P80s or P120s.... I don't remember.
But if the plane was designed for P80s I would use less glass here and there.... it would work well...
My AMTs were 5lbs each.... Today, you can get stronger motors that are 2-3 lbs and burn far less fuel, so a new Large airliner could really out perform
the first DC-10.... which to this day... I have not seen a video of any large plane fly with such power and do 8 point rolls.
Pics of second DC-10
Eddie
02-15-2010, 09:12 PM
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Is anyone else having a problem getting to the RCU Forums?? I know this is not the place to post this, but this is the only place I could get to on the jet forums. Every time I try and go to the jet forums, I get this error message:
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02-16-2010, 12:14 AM
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RE: Airliners
Having 2 engines on the DC10 instead of having only one in the tail is a rich solution
Regarding that building such plane, without some lighting equipement, or without having strong batteries seems poor
So I have checked, and having a TJ74 Franck turbine in the tail, and all batteries in the front of the plane did not need to add some weight !
But 1 engine is 3000 USD ! this is expensive no ?
ON an Airbus A330, 2 P 80's are much enough for a plane of 27 kg ! I have to reduce thrust during take off to make it more realistic
So I think that 2 times 70 N thrust r even 2 x 60 N are enought
Problem is that a P60 or a P70 are more expensive than P80 !
But Eddie, what are you looking for, with an airliner having 1:1 thrust : acrobatics ?
Will
Regarding that building such plane, without some lighting equipement, or without having strong batteries seems poor
So I have checked, and having a TJ74 Franck turbine in the tail, and all batteries in the front of the plane did not need to add some weight !
But 1 engine is 3000 USD ! this is expensive no ?
ON an Airbus A330, 2 P 80's are much enough for a plane of 27 kg ! I have to reduce thrust during take off to make it more realistic
So I think that 2 times 70 N thrust r even 2 x 60 N are enought
Problem is that a P60 or a P70 are more expensive than P80 !
But Eddie, what are you looking for, with an airliner having 1:1 thrust : acrobatics ?
Will
02-16-2010, 01:25 AM
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But Eddie, what are you looking for, with an airliner having 1:1 thrust : acrobatics ?
Will
But Eddie, what are you looking for, with an airliner having 1:1 thrust : acrobatics ?
Will
Yes.... why not... if I am going through all the trouble of designing and building this thing
I want it to be the most capable and highest performance possible. Also single engine flight is no problem.
Just not into the flying around in a circle thing....
Redelman...> RECOGNIZE DOG
02-16-2010, 05:42 AM
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Eddie,
Yup still flying jets, how bout you haven't seen you for a while.
You need to come to Afterburner this year, bring your dad and some boudin.
DR
Yup still flying jets, how bout you haven't seen you for a while.
You need to come to Afterburner this year, bring your dad and some boudin.
DR
02-16-2010, 02:10 PM
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RE: Airliners
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I don't like one engine in the tail because they you have to add %80 of the weight of the engine to the nose.
Its far better to have the heavy things like engines and fuel on the wing near the CG then everything else is just along for the ride..
On the Dc-10 the 12 fuse weighed ~13 lbs... with the elevators.... Very light.... The center section with gear, engines, fuel tanks and batteries was 30 lbs
and they were mounted to the strongest part of the plane...
This type of design makes getting the thrust to weight of 1:1 possible
P80s are fine for a 12 foot model... The second DC-10 I built had Ram1000s for a while then later I put P80s or P120s.... I don't remember.
But if the plane was designed for P80s I would use less glass here and there.... it would work well...
My AMTs were 5lbs each.... Today, you can get stronger motors that are 2-3 lbs and burn far less fuel, so a new Large airliner could really out perform
the first DC-10.... which to this day... I have not seen a video of any large plane fly with such power and do 8 point rolls.
Pics of second DC-10
Eddie
I don't like one engine in the tail because they you have to add %80 of the weight of the engine to the nose.
Its far better to have the heavy things like engines and fuel on the wing near the CG then everything else is just along for the ride..
On the Dc-10 the 12 fuse weighed ~13 lbs... with the elevators.... Very light.... The center section with gear, engines, fuel tanks and batteries was 30 lbs
and they were mounted to the strongest part of the plane...
This type of design makes getting the thrust to weight of 1:1 possible
P80s are fine for a 12 foot model... The second DC-10 I built had Ram1000s for a while then later I put P80s or P120s.... I don't remember.
But if the plane was designed for P80s I would use less glass here and there.... it would work well...
My AMTs were 5lbs each.... Today, you can get stronger motors that are 2-3 lbs and burn far less fuel, so a new Large airliner could really out perform
the first DC-10.... which to this day... I have not seen a video of any large plane fly with such power and do 8 point rolls.
Pics of second DC-10
Eddie
I am really interested in getting this project done or having someone to help me.
02-16-2010, 03:11 PM
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Before I quote it... What size engines do you have ?
The biggest fuse diameter I can do is 17 inches..
witch would make your plane a bit longer than my DC-10s... not much...
btw... anything less than 10 foot I don't want to mess with.
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02-16-2010, 03:13 PM
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ACTUALLY I WILL ALSO LIKE TO HAVE ONE CAN YOU BUILT TWO?
ACTUALLY I WILL ALSO LIKE TO HAVE ONE CAN YOU BUILT TWO?
If you guys order together, that would lower the price %20
must be same plane... engines don't matter
02-17-2010, 01:55 AM
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RE: Airliners
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Before I quote it... What size engines do you have ?
The biggest fuse diameter I can do is 17 inches..
witch would make your plane a bit longer than my DC-10s... not much...
btw... anything less than 10 foot I don't want to mess with.
Eddie
Before I quote it... What size engines do you have ?
The biggest fuse diameter I can do is 17 inches..
witch would make your plane a bit longer than my DC-10s... not much...
btw... anything less than 10 foot I don't want to mess with.
Eddie
The bigger the better for me if it is just a little bigger than your DC-10 it would be fine.
02-17-2010, 09:53 AM
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Ok... Send me your personal email and we can get things going.
I will need %20 down to order materials. Today I will come up with final size.
Now remember .... you will not win top gun with this plane.... These planes will look just like the DC-10s I built except A300s
The fuse will be white and the wings will be primer gray.... its up to you for color.
If you both agree to get a plane... its 4500 each...
This will be the last post on this forum about this sale.... In the attached pic you can see this is not a molded plane. It will not be perfect..
Just so you know.
[email protected]
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03-03-2010, 11:13 AM
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Ok... Send me your personal email and we can get things going.
I will need %20 down to order materials. Today I will come up with final size.
Now remember .... you will not win top gun with this plane.... These planes will look just like the DC-10s I built except A300s
The fuse will be white and the wings will be primer gray.... its up to you for color.
If you both agree to get a plane... its 4500 each...
This will be the last post on this forum about this sale.... In the attached pic you can see this is not a molded plane. It will not be perfect..
Just so you know.
[email protected]
Eddie Weeks
Ok... Send me your personal email and we can get things going.
I will need %20 down to order materials. Today I will come up with final size.
Now remember .... you will not win top gun with this plane.... These planes will look just like the DC-10s I built except A300s
The fuse will be white and the wings will be primer gray.... its up to you for color.
If you both agree to get a plane... its 4500 each...
This will be the last post on this forum about this sale.... In the attached pic you can see this is not a molded plane. It will not be perfect..
Just so you know.
[email protected]
Eddie Weeks
11-19-2010, 02:41 PM
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hehe...this is aweosme in its own way.........you will never lose a jet with this setup
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIQuOSMNv_M&feature=fvw[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIQuOSMNv_M&feature=fvw[/youtube]
