UMS Evolution Radial Care and Operation
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Steve,
If you do go w/ Solo Prop it might be a good idea to order an extra blade or two at the time of purchase. They are custom made and if, down the road,you dobreak oneyou will have an extra made from the same batch...ready to go.
If you do go w/ Solo Prop it might be a good idea to order an extra blade or two at the time of purchase. They are custom made and if, down the road,you dobreak oneyou will have an extra made from the same batch...ready to go.
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Yikes! 23x14 x4 blades!! That is some serious pitch. The EVO book only suggests a 24x12 x2 blade...
Steve, I think Tom is on the right track. The 22x10 x4 you already have seems a bit small, so the next best thing is the 24x10 x4.
Your Corsair's performance with the 22x8 3 blade @ 6500rpm is the benchmark. The EVO99 with the 24x10 4 blade might only see 5500rpm. That should / might / could equate to better performance...
(EEEK This is a tough one!)
Regards RossG
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Yikes! 23x14 x4 blades!! That is some serious pitch. The EVO book only suggests a 24x12 x2 blade...
Steve, I think Tom is on the right track. The 22x10 x4 you already have seems a bit small, so the next best thing is the 24x10 x4.
Your Corsair's performance with the 22x8 3 blade @ 6500rpm is the benchmark. The EVO99 with the 24x10 4 blade might only see 5500rpm. That should / might / could equate to better performance...
(EEEK This is a tough one!)
Regards RossG
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Steve, My vote is the 24x10 4 blade, next what you have.. EEEK This is a tough one! -Tom
Steve, My vote is the 24x10 4 blade, next what you have.. EEEK This is a tough one! -Tom
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well I talked to Troy built models again, and another guy says the 23 x14 is too much, and the 24x10 will only push the plane at 50 mph when you calculate the Pitch x`s the rpm, for example 5000 rpm x 10 pitch= 50 mph, so now they say at least a 12 pitch and maybe 22 or 23 in. dia. should pull it 20 or so mph faster, or 5500 x 12 = 6600, but I think I may keep this 22x10x4 just to get the end result for the info and go from there! thanks guys I will report the findings when I get the correct fuel and give it a try, now fuel selection uuuummmmmm?...................Steve
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Tom, IT'S DONE ! ! ! No idea what I'll do with it. I just like engines... :-) Will be here early next week. I wonder if it is man enough to power a 97'' Gee Bee Y. A mate has one with a G62 and 23x8. Goes great, sounds lousy! Needs a radial!
Anyway, no hurry, will play with it and just admire it for quite a while. After 2 years, my Saito 325 is finally getting closer to it's new home, the big CMPro Zero. An ideal combination.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Regards, RossG
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Ross, I am confident you will be pleased with a 7-77..... Anyway, as I have said, I have had great enjoyment with these engines. Please read my essays and Pete Bergstroms comments earlier in the thread to help insure your success. Press that Buy Button!!! -Tom
Ross, I am confident you will be pleased with a 7-77..... Anyway, as I have said, I have had great enjoyment with these engines. Please read my essays and Pete Bergstroms comments earlier in the thread to help insure your success. Press that Buy Button!!! -Tom
Tom, IT'S DONE ! ! ! No idea what I'll do with it. I just like engines... :-) Will be here early next week. I wonder if it is man enough to power a 97'' Gee Bee Y. A mate has one with a G62 and 23x8. Goes great, sounds lousy! Needs a radial!
Anyway, no hurry, will play with it and just admire it for quite a while. After 2 years, my Saito 325 is finally getting closer to it's new home, the big CMPro Zero. An ideal combination.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Regards, RossG
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Hey Ross.
I have one of the UMS Seidels 7-70. I have that in a 97" Gee Bee Y from Austar Models. You will have no problems at all with the 7-77.
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Hi Greg
That's exactly the GeeBee I was refering to. Looks great, love the telescopic wheel pants. Didn't you originally plan to put the 7-70 in a Peashooter? I looked up some of your previous posts (big brother is watching!) and downloaded your video of the first run of your 7-70. Well done. And lots of good info on fuel, glow setup etc.
Do you have a vid of the GeeBee flying? That would be good.
Thanks for your input.
Regards RossG
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Hi Greg
That's exactly the GeeBee I was refering to. Looks great, love the telescopic wheel pants. Didn't you originally plan to put the 7-70 in a Peashooter? I looked up some of your previous posts (big brother is watching!) and downloaded your video of the first run of your 7-70. Well done. And lots of good info on fuel, glow setup etc.
Do you have a vid of the GeeBee flying? That would be good.
Thanks for your input.
Regards RossG
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Hey Ross.
I have one of the UMS Seidels 7-70. I have that in a 97" Gee Bee Y from Austar Models. You will have no problems at all with the 7-77.
Hey Ross.
I have one of the UMS Seidels 7-70. I have that in a 97" Gee Bee Y from Austar Models. You will have no problems at all with the 7-77.
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Peashooter is still underway. But the 7-70 is not looking good for it. The cowl ring on the peashooter is considerably larger than the engine, and it just wouldn't look right. (The Peashooter has a large blanking plate covering the crankcase, with just the cylinders poking out on the full-size. The 7-70 would be hidden by this plate) and lets face it...the main reason for putting these radials into a model is for the bling, both visual and aural.
So I would need to go for a radial with almost twice the diameter of the 7-70, or a big single. and use a dummy.
I haven't got a video yet of the Gee Bee, but I am working on it.
Word of warning regards those lovely telescopic wheel pants. The wheels they supply are......ordinary...... One collapsed on me (to be fair I had modified it to take bearings), the resultant wheel wobble tore the leg out of the wing. Do as I eventually did, and buy a pair of good wheels.
Greg
So I would need to go for a radial with almost twice the diameter of the 7-70, or a big single. and use a dummy.
I haven't got a video yet of the Gee Bee, but I am working on it.
Word of warning regards those lovely telescopic wheel pants. The wheels they supply are......ordinary...... One collapsed on me (to be fair I had modified it to take bearings), the resultant wheel wobble tore the leg out of the wing. Do as I eventually did, and buy a pair of good wheels.
Greg
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Maidened my plane with the 7-77 and Mcdaniels on board glow...that has really transformed an already great engine. The idle is supreme and transition is good. You won't be disappionted with the Mcdaniels.
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Greg
Thanks for the info, ARFs often have low cost wheels. Plastic hubs running on plated wire axles....
Careful if you restrict airflow over the cam drive housing. The Saitos get quite hot in the nose. Because I don't like the blue painted engraving on the EVOs, looks a bit tacky to me, sorry Pete, I was going to turn up an alloy cover ring for the EVO77 until I checked the possibility of heat buildup....
Regards, RossG
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Greg
Thanks for the info, ARFs often have low cost wheels. Plastic hubs running on plated wire axles....
Careful if you restrict airflow over the cam drive housing. The Saitos get quite hot in the nose. Because I don't like the blue painted engraving on the EVOs, looks a bit tacky to me, sorry Pete, I was going to turn up an alloy cover ring for the EVO77 until I checked the possibility of heat buildup....
Regards, RossG
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Peashooter is still underway. But the 7-70 is not looking good for it. The cowl ring on the peashooter is considerably larger than the engine, and it just wouldn't look right. (The Peashooter has a large blanking plate covering the crankcase, with just the cylinders poking out on the full-size. The 7-70 would be hidden by this plate) and lets face it...the main reason for putting these radials into a model is for the bling, both visual and aural.
Word of warning regards those lovely telescopic wheel pants. The wheels they supply are......ordinary...... One collapsed on me (to be fair I had modified it to take bearings), the resultant wheel wobble tore the leg out of the wing. Do as I eventually did, and buy a pair of good wheels.
Greg
Peashooter is still underway. But the 7-70 is not looking good for it. The cowl ring on the peashooter is considerably larger than the engine, and it just wouldn't look right. (The Peashooter has a large blanking plate covering the crankcase, with just the cylinders poking out on the full-size. The 7-70 would be hidden by this plate) and lets face it...the main reason for putting these radials into a model is for the bling, both visual and aural.
Word of warning regards those lovely telescopic wheel pants. The wheels they supply are......ordinary...... One collapsed on me (to be fair I had modified it to take bearings), the resultant wheel wobble tore the leg out of the wing. Do as I eventually did, and buy a pair of good wheels.
Greg
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Well donecymaz!We need pictures and avideo asap!
BTW,did you make the exhaust ring in the pic below? Are they the original EVO header pipes, if so how are they fixed to the main ring? What is the "container" fixed near the exhaust outlet?
Thanks.
Regards, RossG
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Well donecymaz!We need pictures and avideo asap!
BTW,did you make the exhaust ring in the pic below? Are they the original EVO header pipes, if so how are they fixed to the main ring? What is the "container" fixed near the exhaust outlet?
Thanks.
Regards, RossG
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Maidened my plane with the 7-77 and Mcdaniels on board glow...that has really transformed an already great engine. The idle is supreme and transition is good. You won't be disappionted with the Mcdaniels.
Maidened my plane with the 7-77 and Mcdaniels on board glow...that has really transformed an already great engine. The idle is supreme and transition is good. You won't be disappionted with the Mcdaniels.
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Flew very well....The wing ribs,spars and fuselage formers I had laser cut off plan. This ensured that everything was square straight and true. It does fly better at speed, my first ( maiden) flight I flew it too slow, understandable I suppose. The landing was too slow.
Second flight was much better. Riched the top end by 2clicks increased the glow run time and of course flew it faster. This made the control crisper and the plane respoded better. Landing was better....flew it in under power all the way, its a 24lbs plane and draggy. So she lives to fly another day.
Oh, and it hates to take off x wind and will protest by swinging about a bit, landing very x wind is a bit of a no -no as well. The parasol wing will get alot of wind under it
Second flight was much better. Riched the top end by 2clicks increased the glow run time and of course flew it faster. This made the control crisper and the plane respoded better. Landing was better....flew it in under power all the way, its a 24lbs plane and draggy. So she lives to fly another day.
Oh, and it hates to take off x wind and will protest by swinging about a bit, landing very x wind is a bit of a no -no as well. The parasol wing will get alot of wind under it
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well I got my Keleo exhaust ring in for my 999 and what a job it was to install!!! some of the exhaust nuts did not line up with the cylinders and about 4 hours later, finally decided to call the manufacturer up and complain, but after talking to the guy, it turns out I had to loosen the cylinder flange allen heads and the intake at the top of the head, turn the cylinder jugs a degree or two to get the threads to line up, start a few threads and then realign the cylinder jugs and tighten them back down, made me a little nervous but it seemed to work! the ring itself at the joints (three piece ring) were off about a millimeter, another words not inline, but the clamps they give you brought them together with some heat resistent silicone, but once it is on it is solid. had to cut the length of the bottom tail pipe about 1/2in. below the corsair cowl, pheeeuuuwww more work than I expected but turned out nice! hoping to learn how to post pics of the Corsair.........Steve
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well I got my Keleo exhaust ring in for my 999 and what a job it was to install!!! some of the exhaust nuts did not line up with the cylinders and about 4 hours later, finally decided to call the manufacturer up and complain, but after talking to the guy, it turns out I had to loosen the cylinder flange allen heads and the intake at the top of the head, turn the cylinder jugs a degree or two to get the threads to line up, start a few threads and then realign the cylinder jugs and tighten them back down, made me a little nervous but it seemed to work! the ring itself at the joints (three piece ring) were off about a millimeter, another words not inline, but the clamps they give you brought them together with some heat resistent silicone, but once it is on it is solid. had to cut the length of the bottom tail pipe about 1/2in. below the corsair cowl, pheeeuuuwww more work than I expected but turned out nice! hoping to learn how to post pics of the Corsair.........Steve
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Interesting... I received my 9-99 a few days ago, but haven't tried to mount it yet. The metal ring clamps they provide are bare metal inside and out... What heat resistent silicone are you speaking about? There were no instructions...just the 3 zip lock bags with the ring sections...so thanks for the heads-up on installation "procedures"!
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I tried to assemble the exhaust ring as per the instructions, (which were simple and vaque), and it did not go as he stated, however, the 3 piece ring do not go into each other, rather they butt up to each other, and the clamp fits equally over the 3 sections and he recommends putting sillicone where the ring butts up to each other to help seal any exhaust leak, I used a automotive heat sillicone gasket type sealer, which he said will work great, so good luck setting it up!
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I have one of these 3 piece exhausts myself and it has many flights on it. When installing I did press internal 1/2 inch long tubes on the inside. It was a near miracle that I had brass tubing that its outside diameter was a good fit to the rings inside diameter. This ring is on my Robin Hood 99 shown elsewhere in this thread. -Tom
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Thought of trying a different prop on me evo/ums 7-77. Currently on a 24x10 but would like some more thrust , any thoughts or suggestions??
My exhaust ring came from Horizon. I loosened everthing up but it still took along time to wrestle on.
My exhaust ring came from Horizon. I loosened everthing up but it still took along time to wrestle on.
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Yes i have been doing that but why waste nitro on an engine that does mot require nitro?
I figured since it is a special mix anyway and needs to be its own seperate container.
And a quart of oil mixed with methanol would go a long way why not try it.
So, back to my question, any synthetic oil or a castor would work. How about mobil lite?
I mix it in my turbine fuel, handles heat and burns clean ?
I figured since it is a special mix anyway and needs to be its own seperate container.
And a quart of oil mixed with methanol would go a long way why not try it.
So, back to my question, any synthetic oil or a castor would work. How about mobil lite?
I mix it in my turbine fuel, handles heat and burns clean ?