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Old 08-30-2007, 08:36 PM
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Big Boy,

If you will look back several pages (find the ones with the pictures from Top Gun) you will find some posts from one of the guru's from Genesis Aircraft posting here. If you send him a pm or an e-mail I think that he might be able to better answer your question than any of us would. I think that his Universe name is TRLamb.

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Old 08-30-2007, 08:40 PM
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I vote for ARMY Special Ops Flat Black[8D]... Just like a Doggie would. It'd look REALLY shiney (at night). Knowing your finishing skills, I wouldn't be surprised if you could make a flat black paint job glossy.

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Flat Black???? You mean the stuff with no shine? My Daughter never asks me, "Daddy, why don't you build shiney Airplanes"? . Good to hear from you there Todd.
Yeah... no frills, basic Flat Black... kinda like my ARMY flight boots. Never failed a shiney boot inspection. I'd just go pre-flight my 'hook right before inspection and all the puddles of oil and hydrualic fluid would have my boots looking like a Sailor's model airplane. I did get lots of gigs for my soiled Flight Suit... and even more soiled skivvies...[8D]. Long ago and far away.

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Old 08-30-2007, 10:27 PM
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I vote for ARMY Special Ops Flat Black[8D]... Just like a Doggie would. It'd look REALLY shiney (at night). Knowing your finishing skills, I wouldn't be surprised if you could make a flat black paint job glossy.

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Flat Black???? You mean the stuff with no shine? My Daughter never asks me, "Daddy, why don't you build shiney Airplanes"? . Good to hear from you there Todd.
Yeah... no frills, basic Flat Black... kinda like my ARMY flight boots. Never failed a shiney boot inspection. I'd just go pre-flight my 'hook right before inspection and all the puddles of oil and hydrualic fluid would have my boots looking like a Sailor's model airplane. I did get lots of gigs for my soiled Flight Suit... and even more soiled skivvies...[8D]. Long ago and far away.

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I've seen firsthand the NOE antics that you guys pulled...No wonder you had soiled skivvies.[:'(]

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Old 08-30-2007, 10:37 PM
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Not as soiled as your skivvies were that night... bet you thought we were gonna come back for your house, and dogs and... did I mention that you grew some pretty tasty corn??? Chickens weren't bad either.

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Old 08-31-2007, 06:50 PM
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Well a good long 3 day weekend I was hoping to have my bird covered but the hobby shop has let me down. 3 weeks and still no order. I'm going to order it myself.

I think I'll order some paint too while I'm ordering. Any recommendations?? I'm used to using automotive paint with a clear coat. This is only a warm up build to see how much I remember and to get some stick time. So i don't feel the need for all that. I'm looking for quick easy and light. Any thoughts??

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Old 09-01-2007, 05:55 AM
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RedWulf,

If you can stand the freight, then Sikkens is the only game in town, but if you prefer single stage, then DelStar enamel is pretty good as well. It becomes a matter of personal preference at that point.

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Old 09-01-2007, 06:06 AM
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Todd, While this is not flat black, how about some nice flat dark grey primer??
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Old 09-01-2007, 07:08 AM
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I like what you did with your wing to fuselage fairing. Any chance of seeing it more close-up and prior to covering?

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Old 09-01-2007, 07:10 AM
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The DelStar enamel wouldn't be fuel proof without clear coating I assume? It's basically the same as using the automotive paints that I'm used to using. Right????

On the next bird I'll set out to doing a nice finish. This one is only to get off the ground with. I was looking at the Klass Kote Epoxy paint. Any thoughts there?

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Old 09-01-2007, 09:18 AM
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The DelStar enamel wouldn't be fuel proof without clear coating I assume? It's basically the same as using the automotive paints that I'm used to using. Right????

On the next bird I'll set out to doing a nice finish. This one is only to get off the ground with. I was looking at the Klass Kote Epoxy paint. Any thoughts there?

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Sean,

No enamel is actually fuel proof, but I get by as long as I don't run any hotter fuel than 15% nitro, and as long as I clean the plane as soon as I'm through flying. Klass Kote appears to be highly fuel resistant, and looks good. It seems to atomize well too, so expect a great looking finish. If you run glow fuel, just remember that the basis for this fuel is alcohol. Cleaning the model when finished flying should still be required. As I said, I have no problems using lacquers and enamels, but I do let the finish completely cure before introducing it to fuel.

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Old 09-01-2007, 12:10 PM
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Todd, While this is not flat black, how about some nice flat dark grey primer??
Well that's a good start - a little on the shiney side for my taste... Just ask my daughter. Actually, I wish my finished paint jobs would come out that shiney. Lookin' great Jim!

I got a new Craftsman air compressor for my birthday last month and a mini detail gun. Been too dang hot here to play with it. When it gets under a hundred f-teen degrees in my shop, then I can practice... 'til then - back to the cement pond[8D].

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Old 09-01-2007, 06:12 PM
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Well this what I have done so far Took off old skin and replacedand repainted.
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Old 09-01-2007, 06:28 PM
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Oddly enough I don't it, was almost an after thought, but I copied the idea from RC Outlaw and the Sig Astro Hog, I didn't extemd mine real far back. I just wanted to fair the wing into the fuselage so it wouldn't look like some of the ARF's I have.
Here are some more shots, I have it together (temprary) working on getting it balanced. Gonna take some weight in the nose!
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Old 09-01-2007, 06:29 PM
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Outlaw, that's a great looking instrument panel. Has a nice vintage look to it.
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Larry,
It's looking good! Do you think you will be able to make the fly in you were planing on?
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Old 09-01-2007, 06:46 PM
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Welllllll we are going to Estes the 14th and who knows the plane will be ready but will I be back in time May be in the hot tub for a week first time to stay in a condo all expence paid Thank God for Kids with a great Job
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Old 09-01-2007, 07:06 PM
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that is the one like Jim has in his Thank for the complement.

O yes the switch is for the Nav. lights any one have pic.s of light housing Just have to have lights
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Old 09-01-2007, 07:41 PM
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Lookin good there Jim.

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Old 09-01-2007, 07:44 PM
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Larry,

Look back at some of the pics that John has posted. There are many different light housings, and probably all are correct. The last one that I did used a lens attached to a brass tube housing for the wing tip nav lights. The light atop the rudder is a T-pin dipped repeatedly in epoxy, and polished out. It has the teardrop shape.

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Old 09-01-2007, 08:34 PM
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I have wires run through the wing with the connection through the top wing mounts where they are bolted on. I have Led's and ressistors to run the flashing for the lights but boy is it something to get housings small enough to put the LED's in . Well hell I am this far so what the
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Guys.

Radio Shack carries LED's in green, red and white. If you connect a blinking led to the others in series, they will all blink unfortunately at the same rate.
But you can put all blinking led's in parallel and avoid the resistors etc.
I am using the wires from a telephone extension.

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Outlaw, Ken and all,

Note dates of manufacture on the below aircraft;

P1/2 Left and right top wing tip lights on 1987 YMF Classic NC 14081 at apex of tip
P3 Belly light on 1987 YMF Classic NC 14081, No other light on fuselage.
P4 Landing Light on the lower wing of 1987 YMF Classic NC 14081 (both sides).
P5 Wing tip light (Model A) on 1932 UBF-2 NC 2091K
P6 Tail light (top of rudder post) on 1932 UBF-2 NC 2091K
P7 Wing tip light (Model B) on 1932 UBF-2 NC 155Y
P8 Tail light (top of rudder post) on 1932 UBF-2 NC 155Y
P9 Wing tip in leading edge of 1940 UPF-7 NC 173E
P10 Wing tip light mount in leading edge of YKS under restoration

The YMF that the Pica kit is based on, NC 14031, has lights similar to the UBF-2s mounted half way between the straight leading edge and the apex of the wing tip. Other YMF/UMF had leading edge lights as shown in the UPF-7/YKS pictures. And some had no lights at all. If you are making a specific A/C, your lights need to be positioned like your subject plane. Sorry, I don’t have any measurements or pictures with a scale in them.
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Always expect John to come through. What a great historian.

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