Did not know this....Savage world speed record
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Did not know this....Savage world speed record
Was bored at work and decided to learn a little more about HPI. Ran into this wiki on Savage and it's history. It might be outdated, but I looked at the last modification of the web and May 9, 2009 was last updated. Even though Savage is a basher, it currently holds the World Speed Record (61.9 mph) for a monster truck . Awesome!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HPI_Savage
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HPI_Savage
05-11-2009, 03:53 PM
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You know anyone, You, Me, even aa 4 year old can modify a wiki right? I don't know if that's right or not but I usually won't bet too much on something I found out off wiki being right...
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ok, went hunting for said theirs still can't find it but worlds fastest mt is the wheelies king
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_62..._1/key_/tm.htm
and from that event is where the twin engine savage did its run going 66. something, still looking for the thread.
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hey i found the thread
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_6207521/tm.htm
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_62..._1/key_/tm.htm
and from that event is where the twin engine savage did its run going 66. something, still looking for the thread.
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hey i found the thread
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_6207521/tm.htm
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RE: Did not know this....Savage world speed record
ORIGINAL: quadracer111
People on these forums have had faster revos.
I doubt the savage is the fastest mt.
People on these forums have had faster revos.
I doubt the savage is the fastest mt.
and like i said in the other thread 90ish for a BL WK.... worlds fastest electric MT... as or 08
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05-12-2009, 05:35 PM
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Safe to say that a Savage Flux is going to be the fastest Savage record holder. If it hasn't happened already. I believe the most current fastest mt is a highly modded Wheely King some guy at HPI built last year.
05-12-2009, 09:18 PM
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The guys blowing Flux diffs are the guys landing at or near full throttle when messing around doing backflips and big jumps. That'll rip up ANY diff with the power a Flux puts out. Nobody is breaking diffs from just flying down the street or blasting down the straight at a speed sanctioned event. lol
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That'll rip up ANY diff with the power a Flux puts out.
That'll rip up ANY diff with the power a Flux puts out.
You sure about ANY differential? This Dana 80 doesent seem to mind the 800ft lbs of torque my dodge/cummins is running through it
05-13-2009, 12:12 AM
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RE: Did not know this....Savage world speed record
Fab, it was OE in the 94-01 Ram 2500/3500s.
800 lb ft out of a modified Cummins? dude, all you need to do is crank the boost and add injectors to do that...it's not like it's anything to brag about...
Oh, and buy some tires that aren't Mastercraps
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ThunderbirdJunkie is certain that his Savage with a real motor could do 60 as it sits.
800 lb ft out of a modified Cummins? dude, all you need to do is crank the boost and add injectors to do that...it's not like it's anything to brag about...
Oh, and buy some tires that aren't Mastercraps
Anyway
ThunderbirdJunkie is certain that his Savage with a real motor could do 60 as it sits.
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It wasnt OEM in all cummins. Ring gear on the 80 is 11.25 inch. D70 is 10.5 inch. The difference in the size of the pinion and pinion shaft is also huge.
Most 1994-2002 2500 automatics had Dana 70's. That is what mine had before i made the swap. I killed 2 D70's before going to this 80. Put stress cracks in the pinions on both of them and chipped some teeth off. All the 3500's and the 5 speed trucks had dana 80's. In 2003 they went to AAM for axles.
TBJ- I have stock, unmodified injectors. 800ft lbs is nothing to laugh at. Obviously it is no problem to get more out of them. I have a set of bigger injectors and ARP 12mm head studs waiting to go in, just havent put them in so that my transmission will live a little longer. I also drive this thing every day, and dont want to go to too big of a turbo. Put a big turbo on one and hook to a trailer and you will find out that sometimes, bigger sucks.
As for "cranking up the boost"... What is your expert reccomendation on how to do this and what a good boost pressure to run on the stock charger? Since it is so easy and all.
Mastercraps huh? I LOVED those tires. I got 44k miles out of them and never a problem. Tread design was awesome on them and if you find another AT/MT tire to last longer, and perform as well, let me know. My cousin had a set of BFG all terrains on his much lighter gas 2500 chevy, and they were worn out at 40k miles. Cant blame it on burning tires either, because you couldnt even power brake it!
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Most 1994-2002 2500 automatics had Dana 70's. That is what mine had before i made the swap. I killed 2 D70's before going to this 80. Put stress cracks in the pinions on both of them and chipped some teeth off. All the 3500's and the 5 speed trucks had dana 80's. In 2003 they went to AAM for axles.
TBJ- I have stock, unmodified injectors. 800ft lbs is nothing to laugh at. Obviously it is no problem to get more out of them. I have a set of bigger injectors and ARP 12mm head studs waiting to go in, just havent put them in so that my transmission will live a little longer. I also drive this thing every day, and dont want to go to too big of a turbo. Put a big turbo on one and hook to a trailer and you will find out that sometimes, bigger sucks.
As for "cranking up the boost"... What is your expert reccomendation on how to do this and what a good boost pressure to run on the stock charger? Since it is so easy and all.
Mastercraps huh? I LOVED those tires. I got 44k miles out of them and never a problem. Tread design was awesome on them and if you find another AT/MT tire to last longer, and perform as well, let me know. My cousin had a set of BFG all terrains on his much lighter gas 2500 chevy, and they were worn out at 40k miles. Cant blame it on burning tires either, because you couldnt even power brake it!
Eric
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ORIGINAL: cummins driver
It wasnt OEM in all cummins. Ring gear on the 80 is 11.25 inch. D70 is 10.5 inch. The difference in the size of the pinion and pinion shaft is also huge.
Most 1994-2002 2500 automatics had Dana 70's. That is what mine had before i made the swap. I killed 2 D70's before going to this 80. Put stress cracks in the pinions on both of them and chipped some teeth off. All the 3500's and the 5 speed trucks had dana 80's. In 2003 they went to AAM for axles.
TBJ- I have stock, unmodified injectors. 800ft lbs is nothing to laugh at. Obviously it is no problem to get more out of them. I have a set of bigger injectors and ARP 12mm head studs waiting to go in, just havent put them in so that my transmission will live a little longer. I also drive this thing every day, and dont want to go to too big of a turbo. Put a big turbo on one and hook to a trailer and you will find out that sometimes, bigger sucks.
As for "cranking up the boost"... What is your expert reccomendation on how to do this and what a good boost pressure to run on the stock charger? Since it is so easy and all.
Mastercraps huh? I LOVED those tires. I got 44k miles out of them and never a problem. Tread design was awesome on them and if you find another AT/MT tire to last longer, and perform as well, let me know. My cousin had a set of BFG all terrains on his much lighter gas 2500 chevy, and they were worn out at 40k miles. Cant blame it on burning tires either, because you couldnt even power brake it!
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It wasnt OEM in all cummins. Ring gear on the 80 is 11.25 inch. D70 is 10.5 inch. The difference in the size of the pinion and pinion shaft is also huge.
Most 1994-2002 2500 automatics had Dana 70's. That is what mine had before i made the swap. I killed 2 D70's before going to this 80. Put stress cracks in the pinions on both of them and chipped some teeth off. All the 3500's and the 5 speed trucks had dana 80's. In 2003 they went to AAM for axles.
TBJ- I have stock, unmodified injectors. 800ft lbs is nothing to laugh at. Obviously it is no problem to get more out of them. I have a set of bigger injectors and ARP 12mm head studs waiting to go in, just havent put them in so that my transmission will live a little longer. I also drive this thing every day, and dont want to go to too big of a turbo. Put a big turbo on one and hook to a trailer and you will find out that sometimes, bigger sucks.
As for "cranking up the boost"... What is your expert reccomendation on how to do this and what a good boost pressure to run on the stock charger? Since it is so easy and all.
Mastercraps huh? I LOVED those tires. I got 44k miles out of them and never a problem. Tread design was awesome on them and if you find another AT/MT tire to last longer, and perform as well, let me know. My cousin had a set of BFG all terrains on his much lighter gas 2500 chevy, and they were worn out at 40k miles. Cant blame it on burning tires either, because you couldnt even power brake it!
Eric
What's good about the tread design? It can't do anything. It's too mild to be a good off road tire, and it's too aggressive to be a good street tire. Either you want a mud terrain or you don't, and anybody that decides to go "halvsies" by getting an all terrain needs to get their heads examined, and need to make up their mind. If you weren't cheap, you'd get some Michelin LTX M/S's, or some good MT's.
BFG AT's have a habit of lasting 60k+ on REAL diesel trucks (99+ Powerstrokes), do not know what your cousin did wrong.
At any rate...your Dana 80 is still a pos Dana axle that will leak from the pinion seal at 40k miles, and leak at the axle seals at 100,000. Granted, still better than the POS AAMs that have axle seals leak at 30k miles regardless of what they are.
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Why would you care about what a good boost pressure was? Just completely remove the wastegate! or weld it shut, whichever applies
What's good about the tread design? It can't do anything. It's too mild to be a good off road tire, and it's too aggressive to be a good street tire. Either you want a mud terrain or you don't, and anybody that decides to go "halvsies" by getting an all terrain needs to get their heads examined, and need to make up their mind. If you weren't cheap, you'd get some Michelin LTX M/S's, or some good MT's.
BFG AT's have a habit of lasting 60k+ on REAL diesel trucks (99+ Powerstrokes), do not know what your cousin did wrong.
At any rate...your Dana 80 is still a pos Dana axle that will leak from the pinion seal at 40k miles, and leak at the axle seals at 100,000. Granted, still better than the POS AAMs that have axle seals leak at 30k miles regardless of what they are.
Why would you care about what a good boost pressure was? Just completely remove the wastegate! or weld it shut, whichever applies
What's good about the tread design? It can't do anything. It's too mild to be a good off road tire, and it's too aggressive to be a good street tire. Either you want a mud terrain or you don't, and anybody that decides to go "halvsies" by getting an all terrain needs to get their heads examined, and need to make up their mind. If you weren't cheap, you'd get some Michelin LTX M/S's, or some good MT's.
BFG AT's have a habit of lasting 60k+ on REAL diesel trucks (99+ Powerstrokes), do not know what your cousin did wrong.
At any rate...your Dana 80 is still a pos Dana axle that will leak from the pinion seal at 40k miles, and leak at the axle seals at 100,000. Granted, still better than the POS AAMs that have axle seals leak at 30k miles regardless of what they are.
What is good about the tread design? Its as deep as an MT tire, and tread spacing is just slightly closer than an MT. They go as good as an MT in the mud. I have MT's on the truck now. I should know. My dad runs Michelin LTX M/S's on his dodge. They are great on the road, but suck on anything but that.
You are smoking something if you get BFG AT's to last 60k miles. I have seen several sets get no where near that. Maybe if you drive on strictly grass, or ice they will go that long? Dont even get me started on a powerstroke.
POS dana 80, huh? My cousin busted his 80 last year in his 600hp pulling truck. It had 230k miles on it without ever being rebuilt, and 2 years of nothing but pulling every weekend during the summer on it. Yeah, a real POS.
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ORIGINAL: cummins driver
They are great on the road, but suck on anything but that.
They are great on the road, but suck on anything but that.
TRUCKS are not meant to go off road. Only posers wheel trucks, with few exceptions. a long wheelbase Dodge is not well suited to tight trails. Must chap your hide that ThunderbirdJunkie's Jeep with nothing but a locker, 3" lift, and bald 31s will do more off road than your truck.
Course you probably don't really know what a locker IS because you're a mud monkey. OOOH EE LOOKEY HERE I FOUND ME SOME MUD.
Those Mastercrap AT's are not as good in mud as a real mud tire, or as good off road as a genuine off road tire. Put some boggers or MT/R's or Cooper STT's or something on there, really try WHEELING your truck instead of splashing through mud puddles like a 5 year old, and quit posing
Maybe you're getting the point...nobody gives a crap about your truck on an RC forum, just like nobody gives a crap about ThunderbirdJunkie's Jeep.
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Yeah, kind of like all trucks
TRUCKS are not meant to go off road. Only posers wheel trucks, with few exceptions. a long wheelbase Dodge is not well suited to tight trails. Must chap your hide that ThunderbirdJunkie's Jeep with nothing but a locker, 3" lift, and bald 31s will do more off road than your truck.
Course you probably don't really know what a locker IS because you're a mud monkey. OOOH EE LOOKEY HERE I FOUND ME SOME MUD.
Those Mastercrap AT's are not as good in mud as a real mud tire, or as good off road as a genuine off road tire. Put some boggers or MT/R's or Cooper STT's or something on there, really try WHEELING your truck instead of splashing through mud puddles like a 5 year old, and quit posing
Maybe you're getting the point...nobody gives a crap about your truck on an RC forum, just like nobody gives a crap about ThunderbirdJunkie's Jeep.
Yeah, kind of like all trucks
TRUCKS are not meant to go off road. Only posers wheel trucks, with few exceptions. a long wheelbase Dodge is not well suited to tight trails. Must chap your hide that ThunderbirdJunkie's Jeep with nothing but a locker, 3" lift, and bald 31s will do more off road than your truck.
Course you probably don't really know what a locker IS because you're a mud monkey. OOOH EE LOOKEY HERE I FOUND ME SOME MUD.
Those Mastercrap AT's are not as good in mud as a real mud tire, or as good off road as a genuine off road tire. Put some boggers or MT/R's or Cooper STT's or something on there, really try WHEELING your truck instead of splashing through mud puddles like a 5 year old, and quit posing
Maybe you're getting the point...nobody gives a crap about your truck on an RC forum, just like nobody gives a crap about ThunderbirdJunkie's Jeep.
It must chap your hide that my truck would drag your jeep around without even knowing it had anything behind it.
As for a locker... thats a pretty simple concept to grasp for most people. A limited slip is much better suited for everyday on and off highway use though. Crawling is about the only situation where a locker is better than a limited slip.
Maybe you will get the point that i dont care what you think. I obviously posted the pictures of my Dana 80 as a joke, but then again, I guess it wasnt so obvious for you to figure it out, because you still havent
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ORIGINAL: cummins driver
I dont run my truck off road unless i need to, which happens quite often on a farm. Im not really into 4 wheeling. I never cared for caking the underside of my truck with mud for no reason. I use my truck for whatever i want to do with it, and its a jack of all trades. Haul a tractor with it one day, unhook, and go to the dragstrip for some fun, drive it to church the next day, and then to work on Monday.
It must chap your hide that my truck would drag your jeep around without even knowing it had anything behind it.
As for a locker... thats a pretty simple concept to grasp for most people. A limited slip is much better suited for everyday on and off highway use though. Crawling is about the only situation where a locker is better than a limited slip.
Maybe you will get the point that i dont care what you think. I obviously posted the pictures of my Dana 80 as a joke, but then again, I guess it wasnt so obvious for you to figure it out, because you still havent
I dont run my truck off road unless i need to, which happens quite often on a farm. Im not really into 4 wheeling. I never cared for caking the underside of my truck with mud for no reason. I use my truck for whatever i want to do with it, and its a jack of all trades. Haul a tractor with it one day, unhook, and go to the dragstrip for some fun, drive it to church the next day, and then to work on Monday.
It must chap your hide that my truck would drag your jeep around without even knowing it had anything behind it.
As for a locker... thats a pretty simple concept to grasp for most people. A limited slip is much better suited for everyday on and off highway use though. Crawling is about the only situation where a locker is better than a limited slip.
Maybe you will get the point that i dont care what you think. I obviously posted the pictures of my Dana 80 as a joke, but then again, I guess it wasnt so obvious for you to figure it out, because you still havent
Jack of all trades...uh...that means your truck isn't very good at any thing.
800 lb ft at the drag strip wtih a 7,000 lb curb weight at the drag strip would make ThunderbirdJunkie's grandmother yawn.
Jesus thinks the build quality of the 94-01 Dodge fullsizes sucks. So, you might as well not go to church.
ThunderbirdJunkie hates mud. Mud is for people that like spending lots and lots of money on parts. ThunderbirdJunkie is not that person, which is why he prefers non-Kingstar-powered Savages.
And as for a locker, let's revisit that first line that you typed...
I dont run my truck off road unless i need to, which happens quite often on a farm.
Sorry if ThunderbirdJunkie enjoys traction, and you apparently enjoy wheelspin.
I obviously posted the pictures of my Dana 80 as a joke
Bottom line...your Savage is slow. Your Ram is slow.
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This thread is about to get locked and I smelll some bans coming. How about we get this thread back on track? PM if you want to talk about 1:1 chit.
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ORIGINAL: ThunderbirdJunkie
ThunderbirdJunkie doesn't care that your truck would drag his Jeep around, because it will never happen. The only reason your truck would be hooked to ThunderbirdJunkie's Jeep is because ThunderbirdJunkie's Jeep was stuck...and if ThunderbirdJunkie's Jeep is stuck, then your truck would not be able to get TO where ThunderbirdJunkie's Jeep was stuck, so it's a pretty moot point about cummins driver's truck being able to drag ThunderbirdJunkie's Jeep around, isn't it?
Jack of all trades...uh...that means your truck isn't very good at any thing.
800 lb ft at the drag strip wtih a 7,000 lb curb weight at the drag strip would make ThunderbirdJunkie's grandmother yawn.
Jesus thinks the build quality of the 94-01 Dodge fullsizes sucks. So, you might as well not go to church.
ThunderbirdJunkie hates mud. Mud is for people that like spending lots and lots of money on parts. ThunderbirdJunkie is not that person, which is why he prefers non-Kingstar-powered Savages.
And as for a locker, let's revisit that first line that you typed...
So, if it's off road often, then you are lax in your judgement with NOT putting a locker in your truck. Even an Ox locker is only about $800, and would help tremendously in any off road situation.
Sorry if ThunderbirdJunkie enjoys traction, and you apparently enjoy wheelspin.
Because Dana axles ARE a joke!
Bottom line...your Savage is slow. Your Ram is slow.
ORIGINAL: cummins driver
I dont run my truck off road unless i need to, which happens quite often on a farm. Im not really into 4 wheeling. I never cared for caking the underside of my truck with mud for no reason. I use my truck for whatever i want to do with it, and its a jack of all trades. Haul a tractor with it one day, unhook, and go to the dragstrip for some fun, drive it to church the next day, and then to work on Monday.
It must chap your hide that my truck would drag your jeep around without even knowing it had anything behind it.
As for a locker... thats a pretty simple concept to grasp for most people. A limited slip is much better suited for everyday on and off highway use though. Crawling is about the only situation where a locker is better than a limited slip.
Maybe you will get the point that i dont care what you think. I obviously posted the pictures of my Dana 80 as a joke, but then again, I guess it wasnt so obvious for you to figure it out, because you still havent
I dont run my truck off road unless i need to, which happens quite often on a farm. Im not really into 4 wheeling. I never cared for caking the underside of my truck with mud for no reason. I use my truck for whatever i want to do with it, and its a jack of all trades. Haul a tractor with it one day, unhook, and go to the dragstrip for some fun, drive it to church the next day, and then to work on Monday.
It must chap your hide that my truck would drag your jeep around without even knowing it had anything behind it.
As for a locker... thats a pretty simple concept to grasp for most people. A limited slip is much better suited for everyday on and off highway use though. Crawling is about the only situation where a locker is better than a limited slip.
Maybe you will get the point that i dont care what you think. I obviously posted the pictures of my Dana 80 as a joke, but then again, I guess it wasnt so obvious for you to figure it out, because you still havent
Jack of all trades...uh...that means your truck isn't very good at any thing.
800 lb ft at the drag strip wtih a 7,000 lb curb weight at the drag strip would make ThunderbirdJunkie's grandmother yawn.
Jesus thinks the build quality of the 94-01 Dodge fullsizes sucks. So, you might as well not go to church.
ThunderbirdJunkie hates mud. Mud is for people that like spending lots and lots of money on parts. ThunderbirdJunkie is not that person, which is why he prefers non-Kingstar-powered Savages.
And as for a locker, let's revisit that first line that you typed...
I dont run my truck off road unless i need to, which happens quite often on a farm.
Sorry if ThunderbirdJunkie enjoys traction, and you apparently enjoy wheelspin.
I obviously posted the pictures of my Dana 80 as a joke
Bottom line...your Savage is slow. Your Ram is slow.
It has a limited slip, which is far better than any locker in a daily driver that goes off road when it needs to. I have never had a situation where i was spinning and only 1 back tire was spinning. And as a matter of fact, I have never had it stuck either.
My savage might be slow. My dodge is faster than anything you own though
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Ok, this one went from a high speed savage thread to a completely off topic discussion. If you guys want to discuss something off topic, create a new off topic forum or discuss amongst yourselves. Stay respectful not to highjack others threads lest they highjack yours in return. Now, back to your regularly scheduled topic...
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So, can i post my pictures again?
Seriously though, the wheely king that has the record, honestly isnt a monster truck in my opinion. It is lowered to right on the ground and has small car wheels and tires. I think its ok to lower an MT for a speed record, but its not really a monster truck without MT wheels and tires.
Eric
Seriously though, the wheely king that has the record, honestly isnt a monster truck in my opinion. It is lowered to right on the ground and has small car wheels and tires. I think its ok to lower an MT for a speed record, but its not really a monster truck without MT wheels and tires.
Eric
05-13-2009, 04:21 PM
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ORIGINAL: Dale Gribble
Ok, this one went from a high speed savage thread to a completely off topic discussion. If you guys want to discuss something off topic, create a new off topic forum or discuss amongst yourselves. Stay respectful not to highjack others threads lest they highjack yours in return. Now, back to your regularly scheduled topic...
Ok, this one went from a high speed savage thread to a completely off topic discussion. If you guys want to discuss something off topic, create a new off topic forum or discuss amongst yourselves. Stay respectful not to highjack others threads lest they highjack yours in return. Now, back to your regularly scheduled topic...
05-13-2009, 04:25 PM
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ORIGINAL: cummins driver
So, can i post my pictures again?
Seriously though, the wheely king that has the record, honestly isnt a monster truck in my opinion. It is lowered to right on the ground and has small car wheels and tires. I think its ok to lower an MT for a speed record, but its not really a monster truck without MT wheels and tires.
Eric
So, can i post my pictures again?
Seriously though, the wheely king that has the record, honestly isnt a monster truck in my opinion. It is lowered to right on the ground and has small car wheels and tires. I think its ok to lower an MT for a speed record, but its not really a monster truck without MT wheels and tires.
Eric