Heliman4213

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Hi,
I will be billing a very complex airplane very shortly. I know that used to make several building Jake does anybody know about building jigs that are available now for wing and fuselage construction? I know they don't make the adjuster jig anymore and it seems pretty hard to find something. I would appreciate any ideas or links to current available products.
Thank you

ETpilot

Tony Hallo

I use aluminum angle pieces screwed the bench with servo screws for jigging. This is a 33% Champ currently under way.

Heliman4213

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This is the fuse someone else built in a jig before sheeting?? Need to build this !!!!

foodstick

Flat board across the bottom (old bed board in my case) Three vertical boards mounted squarely to it. (angle brackets checked with square) make your support rods all the same height off the bottom board . Then its just a matter of making the opening on your bulkheads all on dead center.. Slide the parts on ...

mgnostic

Heliman, is the model in the photo the specific one that you are building? Sometimes designs were built by splitting the whole thing down the middle, building the left half flat on the board and adding the right half. This requires some care as it is easy to build a banana shaped fuselage. The method described by Foodstick is probably the ideal but i have also seen formers on tabs to set their relative positions, rather like the removable tabs on a symmetrical wing.

Heliman4213

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Ok I uploaded a copy of the plan maybe this will help with knowing exactly what I'm trying to do? The fuse tapers back and down in the front. Looks like some people somehow supported the upper and lower Keel? Having a hard time hope you guys can help now that you can see the plan??
hanks Bob

Tony Hallo

RCM Piper Senaca, wish you well, some things are easier to draw than to build.

foodstick

One things for sure, you could eliminate at least half of those formers !!!
holey cow they are packed in there..

mgnostic

I have to agree with Foodstick about there being too many formers. I went over to Outerzone and had a look at the plans and construction article. One option would be to source an "Adjusto-Jig". They are scarce but there are apparently a few out there. Failing that, you could recreate the function of an adjusto-jig without the adjusto by cutting a series of plywood slotted tongues and gluing them to a base along a straight datum line. The slots would have to be narrow enough to hold the "fuselage crutch" stringers in place while the formers and eventually the sheeting were glued in place. It would be necessary to be really accurate in locating and marking the position of the formers on the crutches and in locating the crutches in relation to one another. It might be easier to add a set of stingers at about the level of the fuselage floor and use them as a crutch for building the fuselage.

allanflowers

This is the approach I used to build my scratch designed Siemens Schuckert D-III.


Some of the formers have "feet" that are pinned to the plan. These were NC cut with this feature but could also be accomplished with add-on pieces.
Very accurate and stable. Part of the sheeting is started before pulling the fuse off the board.

Tony Hallo

Very nice.

Heliman4213

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Yes I know a few ribs there haha. Yes I was trying to buy the Adjusto Jig but cant fine one from anyone. Any more idesa step by step on making a proper jig for the plan you see here? Just got the 2 Saito 82 4 Strokes for it.
Thanks guys let me know him him ideas??

Heliman4213

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Forgot you asked about is this the specific model yes these are the plans. Had the plans for 20 plus years ansd have several twins thought this would be fun.
Bob

ETpilot

mgnostic

Heliman, it wouldn't be that hard to add feet ala Alan Flowers. Draw a datum through the length of the plan. Transfer that datum line to each of the formers according to their position in the model.Draw a parallel line on the plans underneath the model. Use the distance between the two lines to determine how long the legs should be. Note how Alan stabilizes his feet. Once you have added enough stringers/sheeting to locate and stabilize all of the formers then you can trim away the feet and proceed as usual.

Heliman4213

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Ok thanks to all. Will try to make something and will put up some pictures. Will keep you guys up to date!!
Thanks to all of you.

ETpilot

mgnostic

Hmmm, given that the metal all appears to be stock sizes it probably wouldn't be that hard to recreate the jig. The plastic parts could be 3-D printed.

Heliman4213

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Okay here's the completed jig. This should not warp. There are quarter inch slots for me to slide down my 1/4 by 3/8 basswood strip. Also there's a few pictures I started putting in some former's just to see how things line up what you guys think? The plans are on the wall.

mgnostic

Looks like that dog'll hunt.

foodstick

I know I mentioned that there were more than enough formers in there.. But don't get to far along in your build without opening some routes for your pushrods.. Unless you are mounting the servos in back.. (you will still need to run wires somehow...)

I have made similar mistakes in wings before

Truckracer

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We affectionately refer to that as "old school". Unless building the tail heavy on purpose, all those tail cone formers could have been sawed out in the center. There are also lots of ribs in the horizontal stab, elevator fin and rudder. I can't imagine them all being necessary.