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ORIGINAL: TomCrump
Do not confuse the Aeroplane Factory with the Aeroplane Works.
Mace Gill was the original owner. When he sold the company, it was renamed. Mace is a stand up guy, and always delivered on his promises.
The new owner, has not been able to live up to this reputation, for whatever reason. He has since closed up shop.
Do not confuse the Aeroplane Factory with the Aeroplane Works.
Mace Gill was the original owner. When he sold the company, it was renamed. Mace is a stand up guy, and always delivered on his promises.
The new owner, has not been able to live up to this reputation, for whatever reason. He has since closed up shop.
I know Mace sold Aeroplane Works to John then John renamed the shop to Aeroplane Factory.
Do you know when John closed Aeroplane Factory? There still is the home page in the web.
I paid $600 for PT17 to John via PayPal in March 2008.
Tsutomu Mabuchi
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John closed up shop on December 22, 2008. He put up a notice on RCSB. http://www.rcscalebuilder.com/forum/...TID=12430&PN=1
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RE: Plans and Kit Cutters
TomCrump,
Thanks for the info, I saw his notice on RCSB.
He put a nitice on RCSB, but did not say to his customers.
Does "Any standing orders will be filled as fast we are able." mean
he is still working for customers who have ordered?
Tsutomu Mabuchi
Thanks for the info, I saw his notice on RCSB.
He put a nitice on RCSB, but did not say to his customers.
Does "Any standing orders will be filled as fast we are able." mean
he is still working for customers who have ordered?
Tsutomu Mabuchi
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RE: Plans and Kit Cutters
I just placed and order to have a Hostetler Cessna 195 kit hand cut by Cornell Michaels. I have had kits done by Precision Kit Cutters and I'm not all that impressed with the cutting of the kits I had. Many broken parts and some parts don't fit the plans. But that could be caused by many things. I'll let you all know how the Cessna comes out when I get it from Michael. It will be a while before Michael can get it cut but I can wait. I have heard from others that have had work do by this cutter that it is a first rate job with a lot of consideration paid to the quailty of wood for the applacation and very very accurite cutting. We will see in a month or so.
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ORIGINAL: Tsutomu Mabuchi
TomCrump,
Thanks for the info, I saw his notice on RCSB.
He put a nitice on RCSB, but did not say to his customers.
Does "Any standing orders will be filled as fast we are able." mean
he is still working for customers who have ordered?
Tsutomu Mabuchi
TomCrump,
Thanks for the info, I saw his notice on RCSB.
He put a nitice on RCSB, but did not say to his customers.
Does "Any standing orders will be filled as fast we are able." mean
he is still working for customers who have ordered?
Tsutomu Mabuchi
I assume that he will eventually fill your order. The man is not a criminal, and I understand that he has every intention to deliver on his orders.
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RE: Plans and Kit Cutters
Hi,
I've send 572$ the 5 august 2008 to Jonh Monaghan for a B25 Ziroli in 118", I've never reciep the
airplane and never be refund,
Pierrot57
I've send 572$ the 5 august 2008 to Jonh Monaghan for a B25 Ziroli in 118", I've never reciep the
airplane and never be refund,
Pierrot57
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Hi,
I've send 572$ the 5 august 2008 to Jonh Monaghan for a B25 Ziroli in 118", I've never reciep the
airplane and never be refund,
Pierrot57
Hi,
I've send 572$ the 5 august 2008 to Jonh Monaghan for a B25 Ziroli in 118", I've never reciep the
airplane and never be refund,
Pierrot57
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He is talking about someone else totally.
Jon Monaghan purchased Mace Gill's company (that used to be Mace's father's company). Jon couldn't run the business full time and he closed the business. I've done some business with Jon and haven't had any issues with him.
Michael Cornell owns http://www.kitcutter.com/cut/www.kit...com/index.html, and thus far for me has been a stand up guy. I know he got very sick just around Christmas and was out of action for a while. He is cutting my Ar-96 for me.
The two folks are not related in any way, nor are the two companies as far as I know.
Jon Monaghan purchased Mace Gill's company (that used to be Mace's father's company). Jon couldn't run the business full time and he closed the business. I've done some business with Jon and haven't had any issues with him.
Michael Cornell owns http://www.kitcutter.com/cut/www.kit...com/index.html, and thus far for me has been a stand up guy. I know he got very sick just around Christmas and was out of action for a while. He is cutting my Ar-96 for me.
The two folks are not related in any way, nor are the two companies as far as I know.
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I just had a parts kit cut for the Clancy LazyBee 48". By Lazer Works 2005 9th. St. Wichita Falls, TX 76301. And they did a beautiful job.
It is a first class operation.
Jim R
It is a first class operation.
Jim R
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RE: Plans and Kit Cutters
ORIGINAL: TomCrump
Do not confuse the Aeroplane Factory with the Aeroplane Works.
Mace Gill was the original owner. When he sold the company, it was renamed. Mace is a stand up guy, and always delivered on his promises.
The new owner, has not been able to live up to this reputation, for whatever reason. He has since closed up shop.
ORIGINAL: Tsutomu Mabuchi
I have ordered Ziloli PT17 kit and paid by PayPal in March 2008 and received nothing yet.
He said it would take long at that time and I thought 2 or 3 months.
Since it was so long that I forgot that I have ordered my PT17, but I remembered
on Dec. last year that I was waiting the kit then emailed him about my order.
I have had no answer from him as of now.
Does Aeroplane Factory(renamed from Aeroplane Works) still exist?
Tsutomu Mabuchi
ORIGINAL: Pierrot57
Hi,
I've a big problem with John Monaghan, i'v order since the 5 august 2008 a B25 from Ziroli, I've paid the 5 august via paypal,
John said many times: problem with wood, I'm sick, you order was send tis week.
At the begining he say 4 to 6 weeks to deliver.... after 18 weeks nothing,
last week he said your order was send the monday 15 december, since his last mail, i've send 3 mails, no news from him.
Best.
Pierre.
Sorry for my language, i'm french.
Hi,
I've a big problem with John Monaghan, i'v order since the 5 august 2008 a B25 from Ziroli, I've paid the 5 august via paypal,
John said many times: problem with wood, I'm sick, you order was send tis week.
At the begining he say 4 to 6 weeks to deliver.... after 18 weeks nothing,
last week he said your order was send the monday 15 december, since his last mail, i've send 3 mails, no news from him.
Best.
Pierre.
Sorry for my language, i'm french.
He said it would take long at that time and I thought 2 or 3 months.
Since it was so long that I forgot that I have ordered my PT17, but I remembered
on Dec. last year that I was waiting the kit then emailed him about my order.
I have had no answer from him as of now.
Does Aeroplane Factory(renamed from Aeroplane Works) still exist?
Tsutomu Mabuchi
Do not confuse the Aeroplane Factory with the Aeroplane Works.
Mace Gill was the original owner. When he sold the company, it was renamed. Mace is a stand up guy, and always delivered on his promises.
The new owner, has not been able to live up to this reputation, for whatever reason. He has since closed up shop.
That's too bad he closed shop. I also sent him money via paypal and always just got the run around.
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I just had a parts kit cut for the Clancy LazyBee 48". By Lazer Works 2005 9th. St. Wichita Falls, TX 76301. And they did a beautiful job.
It is a first class operation.
Jim R
I just had a parts kit cut for the Clancy LazyBee 48". By Lazer Works 2005 9th. St. Wichita Falls, TX 76301. And they did a beautiful job.
It is a first class operation.
Jim R
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ORIGINAL: WacoNut
Guys,
Buy a 1/8" band saw, scroll saw and a disc sander and cut your own. I have cut numerous kits including 2 1/4 scale bipes and it does not take that long to cut your own kit and you get it the way you want it. The most time I have spent cutting a kit is about 20 hrs. One good weekends worth of work and your kit is ready to go.
Anthony
Guys,
Buy a 1/8" band saw, scroll saw and a disc sander and cut your own. I have cut numerous kits including 2 1/4 scale bipes and it does not take that long to cut your own kit and you get it the way you want it. The most time I have spent cutting a kit is about 20 hrs. One good weekends worth of work and your kit is ready to go.
Anthony
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Hi all,
Since the 15 April 2008 John MONAGHAN has 572$ from me, i've never be refund an i've never receip my plane,
He says all over the time: i will refund tou next week, next week, next week.....
Never work with him, it is a thief, and he has threatened me not to refund me if I still manifested myself, but watch out for this man, do not work with him if you do not want to lose money.
If I am refund I would inform you about it.
Best.
Pierrot 57
Since the 15 April 2008 John MONAGHAN has 572$ from me, i've never be refund an i've never receip my plane,
He says all over the time: i will refund tou next week, next week, next week.....
Never work with him, it is a thief, and he has threatened me not to refund me if I still manifested myself, but watch out for this man, do not work with him if you do not want to lose money.
If I am refund I would inform you about it.
Best.
Pierrot 57
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Hello, did you look at this website ? : https://mraerodesign.securicom.ca/fr...fm?ProduitID=1
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ORIGINAL: tom1178
That's too bad he closed shop. I also sent him money via paypal and always just got the run around.
ORIGINAL: TomCrump
Do not confuse the Aeroplane Factory with the Aeroplane Works.
Mace Gill was the original owner. When he sold the company, it was renamed. Mace is a stand up guy, and always delivered on his promises.
The new owner, has not been able to live up to this reputation, for whatever reason. He has since closed up shop.
ORIGINAL: Tsutomu Mabuchi
I have ordered Ziloli PT17 kit and paid by PayPal in March 2008 and received nothing yet.
He said it would take long at that time and I thought 2 or 3 months.
Since it was so long that I forgot that I have ordered my PT17, but I remembered
on Dec. last year that I was waiting the kit then emailed him about my order.
I have had no answer from him as of now.
Does Aeroplane Factory(renamed from Aeroplane Works) still exist?
Tsutomu Mabuchi
ORIGINAL: Pierrot57
Hi,
I've a big problem with John Monaghan, i'v order since the 5 august 2008 a B25 from Ziroli, I've paid the 5 august via paypal,
John said many times: problem with wood, I'm sick, you order was send tis week.
At the begining he say 4 to 6 weeks to deliver.... after 18 weeks nothing,
last week he said your order was send the monday 15 december, since his last mail, i've send 3 mails, no news from him.
Best.
Pierre.
Sorry for my language, i'm french.
Hi,
I've a big problem with John Monaghan, i'v order since the 5 august 2008 a B25 from Ziroli, I've paid the 5 august via paypal,
John said many times: problem with wood, I'm sick, you order was send tis week.
At the begining he say 4 to 6 weeks to deliver.... after 18 weeks nothing,
last week he said your order was send the monday 15 december, since his last mail, i've send 3 mails, no news from him.
Best.
Pierre.
Sorry for my language, i'm french.
He said it would take long at that time and I thought 2 or 3 months.
Since it was so long that I forgot that I have ordered my PT17, but I remembered
on Dec. last year that I was waiting the kit then emailed him about my order.
I have had no answer from him as of now.
Does Aeroplane Factory(renamed from Aeroplane Works) still exist?
Tsutomu Mabuchi
Do not confuse the Aeroplane Factory with the Aeroplane Works.
Mace Gill was the original owner. When he sold the company, it was renamed. Mace is a stand up guy, and always delivered on his promises.
The new owner, has not been able to live up to this reputation, for whatever reason. He has since closed up shop.
That's too bad he closed shop. I also sent him money via paypal and always just got the run around.
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Ya know, maybe I should build my PCK skybolt, I bought it at the wram show, now I'm curious about the fit and quality of the kit and weather or not it's going to be usable. All I remember is they were very rude at the show and wouldn't offer me a deal on 2 or 3 large kits I wanted, I was looking at 3 hostetler kits and all I really recall is the lady giving me a price off the laptop she had, and when I went to pay, they pulled a higher price off a sheet of paper. I questioned the price increase and they told me it was the price on the sheet, a little pissed but I wanted the kit so I bought it. But if they gave me 5-10% off each kit, they would have wound up with 1200-1300 dollars, instead of $425. I guess they don't want the business that bad.
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Ya know, maybe I should build my PCK skybolt, I bought it at the wram show, now I'm curious about the fit and quality of the kit and weather or not it's going to be usable. All I remember is they were very rude at the show and wouldn't offer me a deal on 2 or 3 large kits I wanted, I was looking at 3 hostetler kits and all I really recall is the lady giving me a price off the laptop she had, and when I went to pay, they pulled a higher price off a sheet of paper. I questioned the price increase and they told me it was the price on the sheet, a little pissed but I wanted the kit so I bought it. But if they gave me 5-10% off each kit, they would have wound up with 1200-1300 dollars, instead of $425. I guess they don't want the business that bad.
Ya know, maybe I should build my PCK skybolt, I bought it at the wram show, now I'm curious about the fit and quality of the kit and weather or not it's going to be usable. All I remember is they were very rude at the show and wouldn't offer me a deal on 2 or 3 large kits I wanted, I was looking at 3 hostetler kits and all I really recall is the lady giving me a price off the laptop she had, and when I went to pay, they pulled a higher price off a sheet of paper. I questioned the price increase and they told me it was the price on the sheet, a little pissed but I wanted the kit so I bought it. But if they gave me 5-10% off each kit, they would have wound up with 1200-1300 dollars, instead of $425. I guess they don't want the business that bad.
I'm waiting for my Cessna 195 kit from Cornel Michaels to arrive next week. I then can tell you how good or bad this kit cutter is. I think at this time that his kits are going to be much better than PKC as he hand cuts every kit he puts out. PKC send his stuff to another person to cut the parts on a lazer cutter and then ships them to the customer. Have heard that a guy ordered a kit from PKC and the ribs were about a 1/16 off from the plans. When he called Larry at PKC to get them cut right he was told it may be six months before they cut another batch of the kits he bought. Now that would piss me off real bad...............REAL BAD!!
Hope you have a much better experiance than I have had I really do.
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Hi! , i have questions....do they just scale the drawings to laser cut those kits? here we draw on Cad programs to laser cut the kits, be we have to offset each parts due to the laser beam width.
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Got a great batch of wood for the Roales JU-52 from Lazerworks. Good work, great to deal with. Gonna use their short kit for the Novack PBY next winter.
Good Luck,
Will
Good Luck,
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BEST A LUCK with michael cornells I paid for a kit in 08 got part of kit sent extra shipping SENT TO HIM balance of kit NO SHOW the MAN IS A CON STAY AWAY BIG TIME AT THE END OF IT ALL HE HAVE RIPPED ME OFF.[:@][:@]
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