Community
Search
Notices
RC Car General Discussions This forum is for all general discussions related to radio control cars. Check forums below for more specific categories if applicable.

Binding Differential

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-17-2015, 01:58 PM
  #1  
micah11
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Kylertown, PA
Posts: 51
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Binding Differential

Had my Redcat Twister XB out today, and after a few minutes heard some 'clicking' from it. You couldn't feel/hear it when you rolled it by hand. I thought that it might have been the pinion/spur mesh, but that checked out fine. So, I started the arduous process of opening up the diff. Opened the case, and.. Nothing. none of the gears were stripped, or even wore down. There wasn't a whole lot of lube in there, so I threw in some heavy grease. Put it all back together, and now there is almost like a 'whirring' coming from it, along with the clicks.

There is also a noticeable binding when rolling the car by hand. No binding when spinning one wheel, but when both turn or one is stopped there is binding and noise from the diff. The drive cups on both the axle and the diff outdrives are a little wore down, but nothing serious. Any ideas? I'm totally lost as to what it could be. Maybe bearings? I've only had it a couple months, and with the snow up here, I've maybe run it less than 10 times.
Old 01-17-2015, 02:04 PM
  #2  
collector1231
Moderator
My Feedback: (1)
 
collector1231's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: A place in a place.
Posts: 4,197
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Have you opened the diff and checked the spider gears?
Old 01-17-2015, 02:11 PM
  #3  
micah11
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Kylertown, PA
Posts: 51
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Yeah, they seemed perfectly fine. Not really sure what could be the problem.
Old 01-17-2015, 03:10 PM
  #4  
rcpowerhorse
Senior Member
 
rcpowerhorse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Newcastle UK
Posts: 579
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

How are the bearings?
Old 01-17-2015, 04:25 PM
  #5  
nitrosportsandrunner
 
nitrosportsandrunner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: skowhegan, ME
Posts: 9,513
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

does it click more when you are turning with throttle?
that could point to the inside of the differential.
The other trans gears it is usually pretty easy to identify bad teeth. And you would usually eventually lose all drive if the outside of the diff, input or intermediate gear stripped.

you may have over tightened the trans case when putting it back together, which could be the cause of the binding you noticed after working on it. That can even happen on my SC10 diff.
Old 01-17-2015, 04:37 PM
  #6  
phmaximus
 
phmaximus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Adelaide, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 6,709
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

from what you have told me the problem is not in the spider gears.... If it was the spider gears it would make the noise when u turn one wheel...so it's safe to say the diff action is fine.

And by the sounds I don't think its the axles or hub carrier bearings, because it would happen all the time not just when both wheels are turning..

so all that leaves is..
motor or motor bearings
pinion to spur
slipper to idler gear
idler gear to diff ring gear
gearbox bearings
debris
gearbox housing screw in wrong hole or incorrect length

just check everything over making sure the gear teeth are nice and smoothe with no pitting or debris stuck inbetween the teeth
and check to see if u still have the binding issue with the motor removed....
Old 01-17-2015, 04:42 PM
  #7  
micah11
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Kylertown, PA
Posts: 51
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Aha! I loosened the screws you mentioned, and BAM! The binding is gone. I think the clicking is from the driveshafts bouncing back and forth in the drive cups. I'm glad that fixed the problem, 'cause I was this close to just buying a set of diff gears just to see if that would fix it.
Old 01-17-2015, 06:53 PM
  #8  
cbaker65
 
cbaker65's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: , CA
Posts: 422
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by micah11
Aha! I loosened the screws you mentioned, and BAM! The binding is gone. I think the clicking is from the driveshafts bouncing back and forth in the drive cups. I'm glad that fixed the problem, 'cause I was this close to just buying a set of diff gears just to see if that would fix it.
If you have too much spring load on the suspension,it could be puting the drive axles in a bind.
That could be why they are wearing faster!...
Old 01-17-2015, 09:26 PM
  #9  
i8tweety
My Feedback: (11)
 
i8tweety's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Northridge, ON, CANADA
Posts: 4,419
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

To help keep the driveshafts centered in the drive cups I cut a small rings of fuel tubing and insert them in each drive cup, ensuring they don't bind during suspension travel. I have also used small o-rings from the shocks (I keep the old o-rings when I rebuild shocks).

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.