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Old 11-25-2012, 04:04 PM
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Regarding my post from the other thread. My f22 is a sky master version. So disregard fuel tank comment.

It does fly great on tailerons though! I do have rudders but there is far too much coupling.
I have set a mix up but still don't use them. I do use rudders for speed brake. Both rudders go in. Works good too.
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Mav, 200mm should be ok for first flight. Be sure to program 40% expo to slow the stabs down if you use the full 50mm travel. I settled on 80% DR of the 50mm with 40% expo. I dont like my sticks touchy, especially with a fast airplane.

What fuel tanks are you running?
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Last bit of pictures from the finish up.

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Old 12-01-2012, 12:59 AM
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:04 AM
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:06 AM
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Just a note. The fuel in the one tank is the TOTAL unusable fuel with BOTH tanks in the level position sitting on the table. I transfered the unusable fuel to this one tank as I was easier to weigh. These are the GJC tanks. I had one that decided to seep a bit over the last few months since it had fuel put in it. I have only to report some very good customer service with GJC. I contacted them and they are sending me a replacment tank for free! I love companies that value the relationship with their customers. I regret not getting the GJC version of this airplane. On that note, if I can sell this one I will buy the GJC version and build another one. I love this bird.
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I wanted to also mention that during approach and go-arounds the amount of unusable fuel will be substantially reduced with positive pitch attitude. So even though it looks like lots of fuel you must keep in mind that a level attitude doesn't fairly represent a flameout fuel state.

Shots of the Tams pipe that was made to my specified length. Love his work.
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Pics of the fuel line. The black stuff is anti-static line. I plumb my shutoff valve on the intake side of the pump after a bad experience with a runaway fuel pump. The pump went to full voltage output, the turbine was shut down with the TX operated solenoid valve but for some reason the pump kept running. This caused the fuel lines from the pump to the solenoid valve to blow up like a balloon and burst. The pump continued to pump fuel all over the airplane, filling the bottom 1/2" of the fuselage, and the hot turbine just above the fuel. Not good. We eventually got the ECU battery unplugged but was quite a scare. Injury and total loss of airplane could have resulted if it weren't for some quick recognition and action to counter the problem. So in short if you cut the fuel up stream of the pump it can't feed the fire if it decides to run uncontrollably. I also like to have access to remove power to the ECU if needed. To that end, does anyone know where I can get a barbed #6 Festo ball valve? I really shouldn't be using a push in festo in a suction application. Always try to use barbs on suction and the push in type for pressure systems.
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Nice to be on the forum again. I missed you guys!
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Mav, 200mm should be ok for first flight. Be sure to program 40% expo to slow the stabs down if you use the full 50mm travel. I settled on 80% DR of the 50mm with 40% expo. I dont like my sticks touchy, especially with a fast airplane.

What fuel tanks are you running?
Great pics 757. Welcome back.

I use stock tanks plus a hopper that feeds the UAT. 8 min with P140.

Here is an on board vid, not sure it I posted before!

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LU7Qi4muSTQ

Love this jet.

Mav

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Hello

I`m building a JL F-22 and would like to know what you recommend regarding turbine size.
I have both ATJ140 kero start and a ATJ170 gas start to chose from. Fuel consume? Weight? JL fuel tanks or GJ tanks

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What is your runway length?
Density altitude?
Use the JL tanks. The larger tanks have too much unusable fuel that you have to carry around and this hurts performance.
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Runway length: 2000 meters :-) Altitude: 10 meters.
140 or 170 size turbine?

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140 will be plenty and should provide better fuel economy. However you won't have unlimited vertical. If you want that I recommend the 170. Generally speaking lighter is better. I would use the 140.
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What size AB rings did you buy?
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Hello friends:

wich is is the turbine suitable for this model ? I have a 120 stopped and I want to know if I can install it in a F-22 JL. I have a 15kg too, if the 12 not is enought.

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Chris, I can't remember. I'm sorry as I sold the jet.
Carlos, I used a Rhino in mine and was a great engine. Size must be determined by the length of your runway and surface.
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Thanks, i will install Simjet 3000, 15kg.

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