Any news the Mibo A-6 intruder?
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I spoke with Wagner at Jets Over Kentucky. He stated that the Xtreme ARF A-6 will possibly go into production following the release of the Vixen and the F-84. I believe the timetable for the release of the A-6 is around the later part of 2015. If I remember correctly, the fuse of this model will be approximately 110 inches long. Hopefully Wagner will post to this thread and provide accurate info about the Xtreme ARF A-6 (according to my wife, my memory can't be trusted).
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I spoke with Wagner at Jets Over Kentucky. He stated that the Xtreme ARF A-6 will possibly go into production following the release of the Vixen and the F-84. I believe the timetable for the release of the A-6 is around the later part of 2015. If I remember correctly, the fuse of this model will be approximately 110 inches long. Hopefully Wagner will post to this thread and provide accurate info about the Xtreme ARF A-6 (according to my wife, my memory can't be trusted).
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Talking about landing gear you guys will be amazed from the work on the KAI T50 scale landing gear, this week I received photos of the new optional F100 seat for the new cockpit I will post some of them here but they are white, I asked them to send me the painted ones, when I have it I will post them on the F100 thread, look at the detail level of this ejection seat.
This gives you an idea of what they are looking for at detail level.
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3D printing is still expensive, industrial machines runs from $ 150,000 to $ 1,000,000 depend on the table size, material they use to print and so on, but I believe soon we will be able to produce the whole air-frame on a replicator, software we have already, but replication is still expensive.
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rchobby, can I throw in one small request for the A-6? Design it with proper hard points in the wings(solid blocks attaching top and bottom of the wings) and nice light weight scale set of ordnance!
Yeah on a large scale, but for smaller things like gear, seats, scale details 3D printing is pretty cheap. I have a friend building me a nice 3D printer so I can make small detail stuff like antennas, light mounts cockpits and stuff like that. The machine and software is about 1500.00 Add another 500-1000 you can do 3D scanning as well, some cool tech out there that will benefit our hobby greatly!
Yeah on a large scale, but for smaller things like gear, seats, scale details 3D printing is pretty cheap. I have a friend building me a nice 3D printer so I can make small detail stuff like antennas, light mounts cockpits and stuff like that. The machine and software is about 1500.00 Add another 500-1000 you can do 3D scanning as well, some cool tech out there that will benefit our hobby greatly!
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Yeah on a large scale, but for smaller things like gear, seats, scale details 3D printing is pretty cheap. I have a friend building me a nice 3D printer so I can make small detail stuff like antennas, light mounts cockpits and stuff like that. The machine and software is about 1500.00 Add another 500-1000 you can do 3D scanning as well, some cool tech out there that will benefit our hobby greatly!
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Ian, I am working very close to this company as I did with FB some years ago and as far I know they want to market their jets at a fair price, when I say fair price does not mean that will be cheap or expensive it means that will be affordable and yet give the company the opportunity to recoup their investments, and have profit.
Lol, I have heard that before. When a company says a fair price that usually means "I hope you pockets are deep". All I know is what I paid for my 1/6th scale A-6 landing gear and it was NOT cheap and they are extremely detailed. I was very impressed with the level of machine work that went into them. But in such small quantities there is no way that you will be able to make them for significant savings. I dont think most people truly understand how massive a set of 1/6th scale A-6 gear really are, they are HUGE! I am eager to see yours though.
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I spoke with Wagner at Jets Over Kentucky. He stated that the Xtreme ARF A-6 will possibly go into production following the release of the Vixen and the F-84. I believe the timetable for the release of the A-6 is around the later part of 2015. If I remember correctly, the fuse of this model will be approximately 110 inches long. Hopefully Wagner will post to this thread and provide accurate info about the Xtreme ARF A-6 (according to my wife, my memory can't be trusted).
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Ianober, Did you buy the gear a while back? Do you think if you bought that same gear today with all the advancements with 3D printing and CNC it would still cost as much? I can imagine how big 1/6 gear is my 1/7th gear are big I can only imagine, something about big planes and jets. Ever since I got in giant 3D planes and now jets anything smaller than my current stuff doesn't appeal to me. Suck for sure as the price tags on the bigger stuff is mind blowing at times, I dont like telling people how much they cost because when you hear the numbers its mind blowing. I look at it like an investment, just a very high risk one LOL
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I spoke with Wagner at Jets Over Kentucky. He stated that the Xtreme ARF A-6 will possibly go into production following the release of the Vixen and the F-84. I believe the timetable for the release of the A-6 is around the later part of 2015. If I remember correctly, the fuse of this model will be approximately 110 inches long. Hopefully Wagner will post to this thread and provide accurate info about the Xtreme ARF A-6 (according to my wife, my memory can't be trusted).
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Ianober, Did you buy the gear a while back? Do you think if you bought that same gear today with all the advancements with 3D printing and CNC it would still cost as much? I can imagine how big 1/6 gear is my 1/7th gear are big I can only imagine, something about big planes and jets. Ever since I got in giant 3D planes and now jets anything smaller than my current stuff doesn't appeal to me. Suck for sure as the price tags on the bigger stuff is mind blowing at times, I dont like telling people how much they cost because when you hear the numbers its mind blowing. I look at it like an investment, just a very high risk one LOL
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3D printing saves exactly ZERO dollars when it comes to the actual manufacturing of the landing gear. Yes, Zero, Zilch, Nada!
The reason is because you still have to have the machines to cut the metal (lathe, Mill, rotart tables, blah blah blah), the cutting bits, reamers, center drills, the actual materials for the parts and then there is everything people dont see, that would be all of the holding fixtures (many of which are custom and specific to one part that cant be used on anything but that part). For my F14 gear, the physical gear parts are relatively cheap, but because of all the custom holding fixtures needed, for one off parts imthe price basically triples due to their being 5 times more parts.
For instance, my main landing gear strut (just the top half) requires 8 different parts that are used just to hold the strut in place so other machining operations can be done. Luckily these can be used for left and right, but when their are 4 parts per main gear strut that require up to 8 different holding fixture parts, you can see why the price doesnt change. You have to have this stuff to make the gear.
Where 3D printed parts do save you money are on highly complex parts that would require multiple pieces to make. Cockpit parts are perfect for 3D printing, but the stuff that gives the greatest detail (the liquid resins) also have the highest cost. There is only one affordable 3D printer on the market that uses UV light cured resins, the printed is around $4,000 and the resin is $100 per liter! It also only has a 4x4x4" build area.
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Invent I understand that but it can be used to cut all the detail parts to attach to the gear, plus its a lot cheaper to make gear with 3D printing to check fit and improve on the design before you go in to production using the real materials. Like I said it should reduce cost not eliminate it, my only point was that it should be cheaper to produce a gear vs years ago.
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Fender, if I were to buy those gear now I bet they would cost even more than what I paid for them. The gear are gorgeous though, very well done by John.