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Old 08-06-2014, 08:03 AM
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Default YA F15 Down Elev with Full Flaps

For those of you flying the YA F15, I was curious how much down elev you have programmed in with full flaps.

Thx in advance for your comments...

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None required at all, she does not change pitch with any flap setting. I think the book
called for 45 degrees I went with 40. Move CG back about 1/4"- 3/8" from what the manual
says and she will be dialed
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My CG is 7.75" from the LE, measured with UAT full, tanks empty and gear down. When I deploy full flaps she heads to the moon !!! my air speed does not seem excessive while putting in flaps ... ??? Jet Central Rhino. About 30 # dry.
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Depending on what radio system you use, Id suggest Flight Conditions with separate trims for each, make your flap switch your Condition switch and then you can re-trim the model with each flap position.
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Originally Posted by Bob_B
Depending on what radio system you use, Id suggest Flight Conditions with separate trims for each, make your flap switch your Condition switch and then you can re-trim the model with each flap position.
BINGO!! We have a winner, That's what I did and it works great. I'm using a DX18.
Thanks to David Payne for the help
Mine is setup for trims on ail, rud, and elev.

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When I deploy full flaps she heads to the moon
Mine pitches up with flap also. I probably have more than 45 degrees flap. I drop them when I am pretty slow and they are set to come down very slow.. My TX is at Futaba so I can't check the mix but I don't think it was much.
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Wow that's wild, I've had 2 YA f15s one was my first jet, I never mixed any down elev with flaps.
I do make it a point to slow her down before deploying gear and flaps. If yours is climbing do whatever it takes.
Flight conditions is the best way, if not try a p mix with maybe 1/8"-1/4" to start. Also set it where the flaps and the stabs
stop moving at roughly the same time.
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I have a 12X. I plan to utilize the flap system feature to program in down elev. this way the stab moves at the same speed as the flaps. I have the flaps set for 2 seconds. I was curious if there was a common "Down Elev" starting point but maybe not. . I guess I'll give her 1/4" of down and adjust from there .. It is interesting how some see no effect at all and others pitch up ??
much Thx..

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Hey Bob,

How much down elev did you end up with when switching from clean to full flaps. I'm measuring from the leading edge to the fuse.

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I just looked at the mix on my 10X that used to fly my F-15 and it's 5%. I'm thinking it is around 1/8". 1/4" may be too much.
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On my YA F-15 Arf I have 0 down elevator with flaps, no pitch change whatsoever..... It must be a cg thing but I have flown it nose and tail heavy and no difference.... I deploy mine on final but when I have gone around I didn't notice any change.... Weird!

I have more control throw than the manual maybe an extra 1/4 of inch and use the same setting with it with out flaps.

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Where do you have your CG set at ???
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Never mind... I see where U stated it made no difference for U when both tail and nose heavy !!! Strange
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On mine I do have a servo slow setting that drops them nice and slow, that might be the key to preventing it from ballooning, if you drop them at full speed I could see that sudden changing pitching it up as opposed to the slow deployment keeping things level...
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I have that programmed in as well. I guess I'll set it for 3/16 and see how she does !!!
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It's such a forgiving bird... It won't hurt to mix in some down, it will just force you to hold more up on landing which is more intuitive then pushing down.

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