ozief16

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At update Roger? Lurkers want to know

roger.alli

Glad you asked that Dave,

It is actually getting dangerously close. I spent the weekend doing fit out work, which is quite enjoyable, but takes some patience and thought.

There is one heluvalot of wiring, plumbing, and just general hardware inside an F-100.
1 Rx, 16 servos, 4 air tanks, 4 air valves, 3 retracts, 7 air rams, 1 ECU, 3 fuel tanks, 1 lighting controller, 7 LEDs, 4 batteries, and seemingly endless miles of tube and cable to connect it all.
(As I’ve been laying in each component and its connections, I reflect on just how critical each individual item is. It’s a bit scary when you think about it like this. There is just so much that can go wrong here. )

I started with the pneumatics install, laid the servo/lighting wiring over that, and will put the fuel lines in last. It wont be the neatest install, but just getting it all inside with some semblance of order is an achievement.

Of course, fitting out an F-100 has the added complication of a full length duct which takes up all the good usable space.

Some random photos of the forward fuse.

roger.alli

I have also completed the bypass(es). Which I like to dress up a bit.. this is the only gloss paint on the entire F-100 airframe.

The F-100s bypass is the smaller one.. I did the other one at the same time for another project..

roger.alli

And some photos, both old and current, of the D4S lighting install. This was a B*TCH to install, especially running the cables to the wing tips and the fin pod..

roger.alli

So in the next few days I should be in a position to assemble the entire jet, (which has not been done to date) and stand it up in it's undercarriage for the first time ever, complete with tanks and armament..

melvin

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Hi Roger
My name is Mel Holtman and i am assembling a F-100 for a friend of mine and i have a question for you on the light at the end of the vertical stab! Do you know what the lens looks like and whether or not it is red or clear? Any info or a picture of the light on your jet would be really appreciated
Thanks
Mel

roger.alli

HI Mel,

I just happen to have these pics of the Cutshall F-100F. fin position light.. The Custshall Hun must be the most photographed Hun ever.. . This tail position light is clear/orange.. (which is not to say that all F-100 fin lights were these colours.)

The Details for Scale lighting kit that I have , the fin lens are clear and Red. I don't have a pic of my l fin on my PC currently but will take a photo of it tonight and post tomorrow..

Which kit/version of F-100 are you building??

Greg Wright

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Here is another picture of a Camouflage fin with the same amber/white light. This is the C model so they used the same on all of the versions i would assume.

ozief16

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Wow Roger

That Hun looks great. I'd love to see th clear coat results on the wing when you get a minute.

The install is quite clean. As you've said there is a lot going on in there and it's all critical.

Im looking to start mine in May. I've been acquiring bits slowly as finances allow and with most of my other projects done it's about time for the Hun. Your build thread has been an inspiration as has ,ravills etc. thanks guys!

greg Wright on the other hand is a total jerk. He sent me a manual that I wore out for two years until I couldn't take it anymore and finally bought a kit. All your fault greg

thanks all
Dave

roger.alli

Seeing that photo Greg, I would guess that you are correct as that is obviously an early serial number while the Cutshall hun was likely built late in the production run.

Actually that photo gives a clue as to why the light is shaped as it is.. It fits neatly on the end of the fin avionics faring and looks to be designed especially for the shape of the C model. I assume that the same light was retained with the upgraded avionics of the D & F models, which had a much larger faring..

Ahhhh the stuff I know. Or at least think I know..

roger.alli

Yes I did say I was going to upload some pics of the wings.. I have been getting all excited about the fit out, installing all the gear for FINAL time!! . I will get some photos of the completed wings up soon …

I did not realise you had succumbed!!
That manual is great late night reading material. I’m sure Greg had his reasons.

melvin

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Hi Roger
Thanks for the info! The plane that i'm working on is a single seater and it is the D version.Thanks for posting the picture of the vertical fin. That helped a lot! I think i know now which lens to use. Their is two lens that look just like the one in the picture you posted but it won't be orange and white. It looks like it will have to be red and white since i don't even have a orange lens provided by D.F.S . Your jet is really looking great and i admire your workmanship and patience. The one that i am working on i flight metaled it. I'll never do that again! Way too much work.
Mel

Greg Wright

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Hi Melvin,
If you think doing flite-metal to one is hard try building and doing it to two of them.. Lol!!!
The Camo one was flite-metaled and then painted over top of it after all the details were put into it.

roger.alli

Greg..

That photo of your Camo D model is amazing.. You even have the chute line anchored correctly, under the fin!!!

roger.alli

Some photos of the wings and forward fuse, as I continue with the fit out..

This is the first time bringing all the systems together.. The photos are not brilliant as there is not much room in my tiny workshop.. This coming weekend I will be able to take it outside and fully assemble it..

ozief16

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Yea Greg had his reasons...he wanted a buddy with one . Honestly I must have read that manual a thousand times and it truly was the motivation. Thanks greg

roger the wings look great. The weathering is awesome. I'm totally going to steal your aileron activation method. I think the looks are better and the geometry is better too if I'm reading it right. Any special hints on how you did it?

Dave

ozief16

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I keep looking at the weathering and I'm humbled. I believe that's how they would look in SEA. I plan to do a misty FAC with my F. After reading "Bury Us Upside Down" it was decided. It's a phenomenal Hun read for anyone interested. Those guys were awesome, just awesome.

roger.alli

Dave,
I guess you also have http://www.amazon.com/Misty-First-Pe.../dp/0759652546 complied by Don Sheppard. Some of the same stories, but totally worthy reading along side "Bury Us Upside Down"

I did not discover the Misty legend until BV recommended the above book. The Misty stories are incredible, unvarnished first person accounts.

From my “research” on the external appearance of active SEA Huns, they ranged from slightly dirty, to absolutely filthy. Paint work was applied haphazardly, and markings were often non existent. And of course aircraft changed appearance as it was cycled through maintenance..
I think that over all the weathering on my model might be a little light, but I was warned that it is easy to over do it so I have tried to be subtle where ever possible..
It is not actually all that hard to do, and often times a mistake can look good.. If you get a paint run, just sand through it until primer is exposed. Lots of areas on these jets look real crappy.

The Aileron install was pretty simple although it is very tight in the pocket. An 8411 fits nicely.. The geometry in this configuration way does limit the Alieron down throw to about 50-60% of the BVM recommended, but the up throw is not affected.. I am confident that this will be OK as all the BVM models I have ever flown have been trimmed to approximately ˝ of the BVM recommendations. Here is a pic of the servo install prior to finishing..

roger.alli

Here is a photo of the forward underside of my subject, 63-163, with Staff Sargent Bilcek.
The other photo is an in flight pic of a really dirty Hun.

These air planes were not clean..

ozief16

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I stumbled across those pics as well. It seems that guy took a lot of pics. I had a friend over there makntaining Huns for the NY ANG. I was thinking I would do it up like his until undiscovered they had C models...no flaps!

i couldn't get that link to work.

Thank you for the pics of your aileron install. I've purchased MKS servos for all flight controls. Let's hope they're no bigger than an 8411!!!

ravill

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Wow wow wow wow!!!

Looks incredible Roger!!!

If I saw that thing flying around, I think I would run for the trees, because it looks like it's on a napalm run!

Greg Wright

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Dave and Roger,

Just to let you know. When i build my Huns i used 8911HV's thru out the whole plane on all of the main control surfaces with out have any trouble fitting them.

roger.alli

IT HAS FLOWN.

So, on Saturday, the culmination of all this work rendered down to 6 minutes of supressed terror. Actually, it was really only a minute or two of nervousness as it flew very predictably and was quite stable on its maiden flight. (As you would expect from a BVM model.). My caller/inspector was invaluable, keeping me in touch with the flight plan and watching my speeds, keeping me calm.

We just did a few laps to get it trimmed and settle nerves. When I was comfortable we put out the speed brake and lowered the flap/slat and, gear to learn some slow dirty flying characteristics. After a few more laps in this condition we elected to raise the speed brake and land with just flaps/slats and wheels out. This went without a hitch and the model was taxied in----- while simultaneously all the tension flowed out of me.

Job done!! Time to crack a tinnie!!

The biggest difference this model has, when compared to a sport jet (like a Bandit), is the need for power when dirty and in the landing pattern. With gear, and flaps down, it needs to be well into the throttle (maybe 50%) just to maintain height. As soon as the power comes off it slows down quickly and sinks rapidly. On final approach I had to carry power almost all the way to the runway, and this was without the speed brake extended. I probably cut the power a little early as the touchdown was just a little bit of a thump, but nothing the model couldn’t handle. It came back in one piece.

We were running out of time to do a second flight, and there was an air leak that developed (disconnect uncoupled) so left it there for the day.

It looks fantastic in the sky. I will post some flying shots/video as soon as I can get some.

So I am stoked.. I really want to get some more time on it now and learn how to make this thing go..

Kelly Rohrbach

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Awesome Roger, looks fantastic. Having built three with one more to go I can totally appreciate your accomplishment. Congratulations

ozief16

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Roger, brilliantly done! Congrats

Unfortunately I had a garage fire this week that completely eradicated my models to include all three Bv phantoms and my Hun.

Pictures like yours have inspired me that a new Hun kit will be the first thing I order

Again, congrats!

Dave