Futaba FASST feedback and TESTING
10-17-2008, 03:37 PM
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RE: Futaba FASST feedback and TESTING
Paul
I called Ripmax last week asking the same question as I was looking for a 12Z and there are none left in the UK but they can still be purchased in the USA.
They said there is no difference whatsoever and they have all the correct markings etc. They also said that it was okay to use them in the UK.
The only problem would be if I fitted a 35MHZ module due to the area coding. Also they said that they would not do any warranty repairs.
I called Ripmax last week asking the same question as I was looking for a 12Z and there are none left in the UK but they can still be purchased in the USA.
They said there is no difference whatsoever and they have all the correct markings etc. They also said that it was okay to use them in the UK.
The only problem would be if I fitted a 35MHZ module due to the area coding. Also they said that they would not do any warranty repairs.
10-17-2008, 03:40 PM
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RE: Futaba FASST feedback and TESTING
ORIGINAL: Bax
It won't happen. The system is intended to be modular so that any legal RC channel can be used. The 2.4 GHz band is not used in all parts of the world, and there are a lot of modelers who are heavily-invested in the "standard" channels and are in areas where they really don't see a particular need for the 2.4 GHz FASST system. Remember, the "standard" channels all still work nicely. Nothing has made them become "bad" to use at most flying sites.
It won't happen. The system is intended to be modular so that any legal RC channel can be used. The 2.4 GHz band is not used in all parts of the world, and there are a lot of modelers who are heavily-invested in the "standard" channels and are in areas where they really don't see a particular need for the 2.4 GHz FASST system. Remember, the "standard" channels all still work nicely. Nothing has made them become "bad" to use at most flying sites.
10-18-2008, 05:46 AM
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RE: Futaba FASST feedback and TESTING
ORIGINAL: Bax
It won't happen. The system is intended to be modular so that any legal RC channel can be used. The 2.4 GHz band is not used in all parts of the world, and there are a lot of modelers who are heavily-invested in the "standard" channels and are in areas where they really don't see a particular need for the 2.4 GHz FASST system. Remember, the "standard" channels all still work nicely. Nothing has made them become "bad" to use at most flying sites.
ORIGINAL: Springbok Flyer
Hi guys
Anyone know when Futaba will release the 2.4 gig 14MZ with the Rx antenna properly incorporated into the transmitter case yet?
Thanks
Springbok Flyer
Hi guys
Anyone know when Futaba will release the 2.4 gig 14MZ with the Rx antenna properly incorporated into the transmitter case yet?
Thanks
Springbok Flyer
Bax
Then why is the 10 and 12 channnel 2.4's not modular?
Springbok Flyer
10-18-2008, 10:23 AM
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RE: Futaba FASST feedback and TESTING
I have a 12fg with version 1.3 software.
I am looking to download the latest version, but does that mean I will loose all my Models on the existing software?
Thanks
I am looking to download the latest version, but does that mean I will loose all my Models on the existing software?
Thanks
10-18-2008, 03:34 PM
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RE: Futaba FASST feedback and TESTING
I am confused, please clear this up.[
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Is the USA 12FG O.K. to use in the U.K. & will it take a standard 35 mhz module???? & work legally.
Also am I correct in thinking the 10C is 10 full channels or 8 fully controlled channels & two switched no control channels??
Thank you,
John
]Is the USA 12FG O.K. to use in the U.K. & will it take a standard 35 mhz module???? & work legally.
Also am I correct in thinking the 10C is 10 full channels or 8 fully controlled channels & two switched no control channels??
Thank you,
John
10-18-2008, 03:51 PM
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RE: Futaba FASST feedback and TESTING
John,
You would be better to call Ripmax technical dept. yourself to confirm this but I was told the the 12Z with 2.4 module bought in America was no different to those sold in the UK. Same output power markings etc. I was also told that there would be no problem using these sets at events in the UK. Originaly I thought that modules supplied in the UK had a lower output power but maybe that is just the spectrum modules.
There will be a problem using the 35MHZ modules because of the area codes.
You would be better to call Ripmax technical dept. yourself to confirm this but I was told the the 12Z with 2.4 module bought in America was no different to those sold in the UK. Same output power markings etc. I was also told that there would be no problem using these sets at events in the UK. Originaly I thought that modules supplied in the UK had a lower output power but maybe that is just the spectrum modules.
There will be a problem using the 35MHZ modules because of the area codes.
10-18-2008, 04:45 PM
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RE: Futaba FASST feedback and TESTING
The 10C and 12FG are both module based. After looking at the 10C manual here http://manuals.hobbico.com/fut/10c-2_4ghz-manual.pdf it looks like the 10C uses a lot of software from the 9C and channels 9 and 10 look to be NON PROPORTIONAL. On/Off only. I would confirm this with BAX but with the price of the 12FG right now on Towers website, anyone would be crazy to buy a 10C IMO. For 200 bucks more than the 10C you get a radio with tons more capabilities.
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10-19-2008, 12:26 PM
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RE: Futaba FASST feedback and TESTING
Ehab,
While it may be possible to do it that way, it has not been done (yet)[&o]
The modular version of the JR 12X has the 2.4Ghz antenna integrated with the module, it is functionally identical to the Futaba TM-14 module and almost physically identical.
Only the non-modular version of the 12X has a 2.4Ghz antenna on the transmitter.
Pete.
While it may be possible to do it that way, it has not been done (yet)[&o]
The modular version of the JR 12X has the 2.4Ghz antenna integrated with the module, it is functionally identical to the Futaba TM-14 module and almost physically identical.
Only the non-modular version of the 12X has a 2.4Ghz antenna on the transmitter.
Pete.
10-19-2008, 03:16 PM
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Yes, I understand. Futaba/JR could have easily made the antenna and the module as one unit for the 2.4 or the 72/35, but with the antenna in the proper location. Another words, the Tx cases would have to be redesigned to take care of this issue. I understand that both mfrs wanted to slowly migrate to the 2.4 but not realising that the 2.4 will take off as it did. For me. the present 2.4 systems look like an add on feature, and they are, and they do not look like they were designed from the start to accomodate the 2.4. The 2.4 12X looks like a 2.4 system should look like. I do forsee that all 2.4 systems will take note....soon!!!
10-19-2008, 03:25 PM
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RE: Futaba FASST feedback and TESTING
ORIGINAL: Ehab
Yes, I understand. Futaba/JR could have easily made the antenna and the module as one unit for the 2.4 or the 72/35, but with the antenna in the proper location. Another words, the Tx cases would have to be redesigned to take care of this issue. I understand that both mfrs wanted to slowly migrate to the 2.4 but not realising that the 2.4 will take off as it did. For me. the present 2.4 systems look like an add on feature, and they are, and they do not look like they were designed from the start to accomodate the 2.4. The 2.4 12X looks like a 2.4 system should look like. I do forsee that all 2.4 systems will take note....soon!!!
Yes, I understand. Futaba/JR could have easily made the antenna and the module as one unit for the 2.4 or the 72/35, but with the antenna in the proper location. Another words, the Tx cases would have to be redesigned to take care of this issue. I understand that both mfrs wanted to slowly migrate to the 2.4 but not realising that the 2.4 will take off as it did. For me. the present 2.4 systems look like an add on feature, and they are, and they do not look like they were designed from the start to accomodate the 2.4. The 2.4 12X looks like a 2.4 system should look like. I do forsee that all 2.4 systems will take note....soon!!!
10-19-2008, 07:58 PM
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With the old VHF bands, the antenna had to be on top so that it could collapse down through the radio. With 2.4Ghz. there is no need to have it on top. A FASST module with the antenna turned 90dg. across the back of the radio is much neater, fits very easily into the transmitter case without even having to change the position going from storage to flying.
I have no antenna on top my 9C, the hole is fitted with a nice black plastic trim plug from the hardware store. To me the antenna on the back is not an after thought, it's out'a sight and out'a mind
Pete
I have no antenna on top my 9C, the hole is fitted with a nice black plastic trim plug from the hardware store. To me the antenna on the back is not an after thought, it's out'a sight and out'a mind
Pete
10-20-2008, 12:15 AM
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Yeah, but what happens in five or ten years from now if they change to somethinge else like 5.8ghz? Then there's no option other than buying a new radio. Chances are nothing will happen like that for a long time but I like the Futaba setup. The Spektrum with the wire hanging out the back is scary to me.
Yeah, but what happens in five or ten years from now if they change to somethinge else like 5.8ghz? Then there's no option other than buying a new radio. Chances are nothing will happen like that for a long time but I like the Futaba setup. The Spektrum with the wire hanging out the back is scary to me.
10-20-2008, 07:18 AM
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ORIGINAL: Ehab
The same will happen. They will design a module and antenna for the 5.8Ghz to fit the same cavity in the back of the Tx. So, you keep your Tx and just buy the new modules...The difference is the Tx looks well designed....
ORIGINAL: afterburner
Yeah, but what happens in five or ten years from now if they change to somethinge else like 5.8ghz? Then there's no option other than buying a new radio. Chances are nothing will happen like that for a long time but I like the Futaba setup. The Spektrum with the wire hanging out the back is scary to me.
Yeah, but what happens in five or ten years from now if they change to somethinge else like 5.8ghz? Then there's no option other than buying a new radio. Chances are nothing will happen like that for a long time but I like the Futaba setup. The Spektrum with the wire hanging out the back is scary to me.
That is the point I was trying to make to you
. I really don't think the Futaba setup is an issue. Marty
10-20-2008, 03:10 PM
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RE: Futaba FASST feedback and TESTING
Hi Guys,
Thank you for all the info regards USA 12FG & using it the U.K.
Just got this E-Mail from Futaba thought I would share it with you.
Dear Valued Customer:
Thank you for your Email.
A transmitter purchased in the U.S. will not be able to work with a 35 MHz module purchased in the U.K. That's because they would have different region codes. Also, the 2.4 GHz FASST module on a U.S.-purchased transmitter will not have the proper registration sticker and codes for the U.K., so its legality will be doubtful.
Ah well looks like I will have to buy a U.K. model. Without the discount you guys in the USA get.[&o]
All the best,
John
Thank you for all the info regards USA 12FG & using it the U.K.
Just got this E-Mail from Futaba thought I would share it with you.
Dear Valued Customer:
Thank you for your Email.
A transmitter purchased in the U.S. will not be able to work with a 35 MHz module purchased in the U.K. That's because they would have different region codes. Also, the 2.4 GHz FASST module on a U.S.-purchased transmitter will not have the proper registration sticker and codes for the U.K., so its legality will be doubtful.
Ah well looks like I will have to buy a U.K. model. Without the discount you guys in the USA get.[&o]
All the best,
John
10-20-2008, 03:21 PM
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RE: Futaba FASST feedback and TESTING
You could buy the tx and get the 2.4 module in the UK.
I have also read that the region code issue for 35meg can be cracked to take a UK module.
But it would be without support from Ripmax!
Try Inwood for the UK one, best price i found, and not a grey inport.
Paul
I have also read that the region code issue for 35meg can be cracked to take a UK module.
But it would be without support from Ripmax!
Try Inwood for the UK one, best price i found, and not a grey inport.
Paul
10-20-2008, 03:24 PM
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RE: Futaba FASST feedback and TESTING
Thanks John,
Thats not what Ripmax told me last week I was told there would be no problem flying at events in the UK with the US supplied equipment.
Its just as well we managed to pick one up here in the UK.
Thats not what Ripmax told me last week I was told there would be no problem flying at events in the UK with the US supplied equipment.
Its just as well we managed to pick one up here in the UK.
10-20-2008, 05:08 PM
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RE: Futaba FASST feedback and TESTING
The most puzzling thing! If everyone is upgrading to Futaba 2.4 systems, why are there so few if any used Futaba R5114DPS receivers for sale in the RCU Market Place and on that action site? Any ideas where all the old 72 R5114DPS receivers are going?
10-20-2008, 05:18 PM
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The most puzzling thing! If everyone is upgrading to Futaba 2.4 systems, why are there so few if any used Futaba R5114DPS receivers for sale in the RCU Market Place and on that action site? Any ideas where all the old 72 R5114DPS receivers are going?
The most puzzling thing! If everyone is upgrading to Futaba 2.4 systems, why are there so few if any used Futaba R5114DPS receivers for sale in the RCU Market Place and on that action site? Any ideas where all the old 72 R5114DPS receivers are going?
Marty