Skymaster F14 Tomcat
03-15-2013, 09:14 AM
#203
RE: Skymaster F14 Tomcat
I want one too!!!! will have to save up (big time!!!!) though, but I want it!!! looks sooooo much more detailed and scale the the FEJ..... and judging from the formers and gear, a lot more developped as well.....
Anton,
I'm very curious as how the wing-fuse interface will look like... I dislike the big gap around the wing on the FEJ.....
Wim
Anton,
I'm very curious as how the wing-fuse interface will look like... I dislike the big gap around the wing on the FEJ.....
Wim
03-15-2013, 05:34 PM
#205
RE: Skymaster F14 Tomcat
ORIGINAL: WimB
I want one too!!!! will have to save up (big time!!!!) though, but I want it!!! looks sooooo much more detailed and scale the the FEJ..... and judging from the formers and gear, a lot more developped as well.....
Anton,
I'm very curious as how the wing-fuse interface will look like... I dislike the big gap around the wing on the FEJ.....
Wim
I want one too!!!! will have to save up (big time!!!!) though, but I want it!!! looks sooooo much more detailed and scale the the FEJ..... and judging from the formers and gear, a lot more developped as well.....
Anton,
I'm very curious as how the wing-fuse interface will look like... I dislike the big gap around the wing on the FEJ.....
Wim
03-15-2013, 05:39 PM
#206
RE: Skymaster F14 Tomcat
ORIGINAL: pilot tw
yes, the F-14 will include the all ordinance with drop tanks
ORIGINAL: dubd
Anton, will you have ordnance and drop tanks for the F-14?
Anton, will you have ordnance and drop tanks for the F-14?
That's great news!
03-15-2013, 06:05 PM
#208
RE: Skymaster F14 Tomcat
ORIGINAL: invertmast
Anton,
Will you be willing to sell the gear separately once you get into production?
Anton,
Will you be willing to sell the gear separately once you get into production?
we will support the scale LG for SM F-14 and installed it at SM factory first,
03-15-2013, 06:19 PM
#209
RE: Skymaster F14 Tomcat
ORIGINAL: pilot tw
ok, i will check the gap for you, and post the pictures here later,
ORIGINAL: WimB
I want one too!!!! will have to save up (big time!!!!) though, but I want it!!! looks sooooo much more detailed and scale the the FEJ..... and judging from the formers and gear, a lot more developped as well.....
Anton,
I'm very curious as how the wing-fuse interface will look like... I dislike the big gap around the wing on the FEJ.....
Wim
I want one too!!!! will have to save up (big time!!!!) though, but I want it!!! looks sooooo much more detailed and scale the the FEJ..... and judging from the formers and gear, a lot more developped as well.....
Anton,
I'm very curious as how the wing-fuse interface will look like... I dislike the big gap around the wing on the FEJ.....
Wim
03-15-2013, 06:37 PM
#211
RE: Skymaster F14 Tomcat
ORIGINAL: mr_matt
Anton it to is great to see a scaled out F14 with Likai engineering!
What is the scale? How much fuel will it hold?
Anton it to is great to see a scaled out F14 with Likai engineering!
What is the scale? How much fuel will it hold?
http://www.skymasterjet.com/f14.htm
03-15-2013, 07:42 PM
#212
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RE: Skymaster F14 Tomcat
You guys, someone that understands, please explain. I watched all of the vids of the prototype flying. How can it possibly fly so well with the wings forward AND with the wings swept aft? Anton takes off and lands on one flight with the wings AFT THE ENTIRE FLIGHT!!! With the extreme aerodynamic center shift caused by wing sweep, how is this possible? Anyone know?
Congratulations Anton! It looks marvelous!!!!
Congratulations Anton! It looks marvelous!!!!
03-15-2013, 11:28 PM
#213
RE: Skymaster F14 Tomcat
03-15-2013, 11:55 PM
#214
RE: Skymaster F14 Tomcat
ORIGINAL: Woketman
You guys, someone that understands, please explain. I watched all of the vids of the prototype flying. How can it possibly fly so well with the wings forward AND with the wings swept aft? Anton takes off and lands on one flight with the wings AFT THE ENTIRE FLIGHT!!! With the extreme aerodynamic center shift caused by wing sweep, how is this possible? Anyone know?
Congratulations Anton! It looks marvelous!!!!
You guys, someone that understands, please explain. I watched all of the vids of the prototype flying. How can it possibly fly so well with the wings forward AND with the wings swept aft? Anton takes off and lands on one flight with the wings AFT THE ENTIRE FLIGHT!!! With the extreme aerodynamic center shift caused by wing sweep, how is this possible? Anyone know?
Congratulations Anton! It looks marvelous!!!!
along with the aerodynamic center change, wing sweeping change also CG where it should be
03-16-2013, 01:29 AM
#215
RE: Skymaster F14 Tomcat
From some research Ive done on this the wing king pin is set at a positive forward angle so as the wings sweep back they basically add up elevator. The angle is very small about 1.5deg. Ive asked others to confirm this info but nothing yet so maybe Anton can explain their Tomcat set up and geometry for us.
03-16-2013, 01:58 AM
#216
RE: Skymaster F14 Tomcat
Anton,
the gap on the wing looks very good!!! I'm curious for the top hatch!! on the real thing, there are hinged, spring loaded sections that keep the gap to the wing closed.... this would be very difficult to duplicate on a model though, just like the air inflated 'bags' on the fuse...
keep up the good work Anton, your F-14 has been in development for a long time, but from the looks of it, it will have been more than worth the wait... This in not a simple airplane, and in order to be a good flying machine and not a maintenance nightmare, it needs to be thought out well....
the Landing gear is a work of art as well, it copies the original in form and function, and the way it looks from the pictures it is tied in to the wing center beam as well.. this will make for a bullet-proof gear.... ever seen the footage where they drop an F-14 prototype, fully equiped from a few meter high on it's gear? now that's a testament to how the real thing was built...and this model seems like it could survive a similar test without damage.....
Wim
the gap on the wing looks very good!!! I'm curious for the top hatch!! on the real thing, there are hinged, spring loaded sections that keep the gap to the wing closed.... this would be very difficult to duplicate on a model though, just like the air inflated 'bags' on the fuse...
keep up the good work Anton, your F-14 has been in development for a long time, but from the looks of it, it will have been more than worth the wait... This in not a simple airplane, and in order to be a good flying machine and not a maintenance nightmare, it needs to be thought out well....
the Landing gear is a work of art as well, it copies the original in form and function, and the way it looks from the pictures it is tied in to the wing center beam as well.. this will make for a bullet-proof gear.... ever seen the footage where they drop an F-14 prototype, fully equiped from a few meter high on it's gear? now that's a testament to how the real thing was built...and this model seems like it could survive a similar test without damage.....
Wim
03-16-2013, 02:09 AM
#217
RE: Skymaster F14 Tomcat
ORIGINAL: Woketman
You guys, someone that understands, please explain. I watched all of the vids of the prototype flying. How can it possibly fly so well with the wings forward AND with the wings swept aft? Anton takes off and lands on one flight with the wings AFT THE ENTIRE FLIGHT!!! With the extreme aerodynamic center shift caused by wing sweep, how is this possible? Anyone know?
Congratulations Anton! It looks marvelous!!!!
You guys, someone that understands, please explain. I watched all of the vids of the prototype flying. How can it possibly fly so well with the wings forward AND with the wings swept aft? Anton takes off and lands on one flight with the wings AFT THE ENTIRE FLIGHT!!! With the extreme aerodynamic center shift caused by wing sweep, how is this possible? Anyone know?
Congratulations Anton! It looks marvelous!!!!
indeed, the pressure point goes back, but so does the COG. from the footage i've seen on the FEJ, the angle on the king-pin seems correct, because the wings look rather arkward when swinged back, (tip of the wing would move up...) don't think the real thing had this, but even if it needs trim, this could easily be programmed into any good transmitter.... how i'd love to program this thing into my Graupner MC-32.......
Wim
03-16-2013, 03:09 AM
#219
RE: Skymaster F14 Tomcat
ORIGINAL: WimB
Anton,
the gap on the wing looks very good!!! I'm curious for the top hatch!! on the real thing, there are hinged, spring loaded sections that keep the gap to the wing closed.... this would be very difficult to duplicate on a model though, just like the air inflated 'bags' on the fuse...
keep up the good work Anton, your F-14 has been in development for a long time, but from the looks of it, it will have been more than worth the wait... This in not a simple airplane, and in order to be a good flying machine and not a maintenance nightmare, it needs to be thought out well....
the Landing gear is a work of art as well, it copies the original in form and function, and the way it looks from the pictures it is tied in to the wing center beam as well.. this will make for a bullet-proof gear.... ever seen the footage where they drop an F-14 prototype, fully equiped from a few meter high on it's gear? now that's a testament to how the real thing was built...and this model seems like it could survive a similar test without damage.....
Wim
Anton,
the gap on the wing looks very good!!! I'm curious for the top hatch!! on the real thing, there are hinged, spring loaded sections that keep the gap to the wing closed.... this would be very difficult to duplicate on a model though, just like the air inflated 'bags' on the fuse...
keep up the good work Anton, your F-14 has been in development for a long time, but from the looks of it, it will have been more than worth the wait... This in not a simple airplane, and in order to be a good flying machine and not a maintenance nightmare, it needs to be thought out well....
the Landing gear is a work of art as well, it copies the original in form and function, and the way it looks from the pictures it is tied in to the wing center beam as well.. this will make for a bullet-proof gear.... ever seen the footage where they drop an F-14 prototype, fully equiped from a few meter high on it's gear? now that's a testament to how the real thing was built...and this model seems like it could survive a similar test without damage.....
Wim
03-16-2013, 03:17 AM
#220
RE: Skymaster F14 Tomcat
ORIGINAL: WimB
Anton,
Will the wing sweep be a proportional control??
Wim
Anton,
Will the wing sweep be a proportional control??
Wim
03-16-2013, 03:55 AM
#221
RE: Skymaster F14 Tomcat
ORIGINAL: WimB
the Landing gear is a work of art as well, it copies the original in form and function, and the way it looks from the pictures it is tied in to the wing center beam as well.. this will make for a bullet-proof gear.... ever seen the footage where they drop an F-14 prototype, fully equiped from a few meter high on it's gear? now that's a testament to how the real thing was built...and this model seems like it could survive a similar test without damage.....
Wim
the Landing gear is a work of art as well, it copies the original in form and function, and the way it looks from the pictures it is tied in to the wing center beam as well.. this will make for a bullet-proof gear.... ever seen the footage where they drop an F-14 prototype, fully equiped from a few meter high on it's gear? now that's a testament to how the real thing was built...and this model seems like it could survive a similar test without damage.....
Wim
03-16-2013, 06:58 AM
#223
RE: Skymaster F14 Tomcat
ORIGINAL: Chris Nicastro
From some research Ive done on this the wing king pin is set at a positive forward angle so as the wings sweep back they basically add up elevator. The angle is very small about 1.5deg. Ive asked others to confirm this info but nothing yet so maybe Anton can explain their Tomcat set up and geometry for us.
From some research Ive done on this the wing king pin is set at a positive forward angle so as the wings sweep back they basically add up elevator. The angle is very small about 1.5deg. Ive asked others to confirm this info but nothing yet so maybe Anton can explain their Tomcat set up and geometry for us.
03-16-2013, 07:59 AM
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RE: Skymaster F14 Tomcat
Ever seen the pictures of one of the prototypes (#6 if i remember correctly) where they tested a one wing out scenario?? one wing was locked full forward, and the other was allowed to swing back.. the plane could be perfectly flown with the wing sweeped back completely, and was even considered te be landable on a carrier at up to 60° sweep angle on one wing....
Back to the model - can't wait to see the finished product! Between the wing sweep stability and scale-like landing gear, this should be an awesome model.
Can't believe Anton is flying an all white airplane in a hazy overcast in the video!
Regards,
Gus
03-16-2013, 08:11 AM
#225
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RE: Skymaster F14 Tomcat
ORIGINAL: Chris Nicastro
From some research Ive done on this the wing king pin is set at a positive forward angle so as the wings sweep back they basically add up elevator. The angle is very small about 1.5deg. Ive asked others to confirm this info but nothing yet so maybe Anton can explain their Tomcat set up and geometry for us.
From some research Ive done on this the wing king pin is set at a positive forward angle so as the wings sweep back they basically add up elevator. The angle is very small about 1.5deg. Ive asked others to confirm this info but nothing yet so maybe Anton can explain their Tomcat set up and geometry for us.
I have flown the smaller DCU/Jet Mart F-14 and you indeed needed some up elevator trim when the wings went back. This was programmed into my radio, so it was a non-event. It will be interesting to see if the SM version has the angle built in.
Anton,
Do you need slight up elevator with the wings swept or not?