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Abedinpour 07-28-2019 06:20 AM

Skymaster (X-Treme ) F-100 Super Saber
 
Hi,
just got this beautiful Jet , and i'm going to install KingTech K-160 Turbine on it,
i decided to not install the intakes inside of it , please let me know if you have suggestion or any other idea about it ( specially about the CG );
attaching some photo from start to end and hopefully video of first flight of it,
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...06ca95f4f6.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...9d5b9d1d93.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...39edb6b9e5.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...9162d476d1.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...863256a562.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...897b046341.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...40406dd6df.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...b75d0c4dc2.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...b3270be641.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...f24431797f.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...492ffd4700.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...e5a58e1a2a.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...041a80bb15.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...f6e992a9a5.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...59c037a4e2.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...fde81d1211.jpg

will it fly like this?!?! LOL
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...37eca236c1.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...73931e2b3d.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...fd32843d0b.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...5d3cb210a6.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...2597d283a3.jpg

looks fine!
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...7045de3a0c.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...e079fa8dc4.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...8b42cad356.jpg

lets weigh it with all equipment!

Abedinpour 07-28-2019 06:23 AM

and ....https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...31f6dbeed6.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...af6041ee53.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...792fa6568c.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...08f709c378.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...4f6c9d22d2.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...8a63c507f6.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...ea148d1c0c.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...97e8433a40.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...569e801906.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...49afd89ad6.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...5cf33eafc0.jpg

Abedinpour 07-28-2019 06:32 AM

still working on it ....
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...2ab1c24f3a.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...cf8db33ee1.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...3893d75808.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...b51eb82562.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...6ae5787176.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...e12eff094d.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...75507eddd4.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...1ad218e342.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...2302033edb.jpg

dry weight is about 13.2 Kg

JP-1 07-28-2019 09:23 AM

Very nice :-)

ravill 07-28-2019 12:11 PM

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...22f3f9425.jpeg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...4cf5684f4.jpeg
Gotta love huns!!

kevinthoele 07-28-2019 07:40 PM

The 160 is overkill and just adding weight. I flew mine on K120 with tanks and missiles and it flew awesome and plenty fast with easy landings. I would rethink the 160???

kevinthoele 07-28-2019 07:43 PM

F100
 
Here is my skymaster F100https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...0d7380be50.jpg

kevinthoele 07-28-2019 07:58 PM

Sorry, I used 345 for my cg which was perfect and recommended control throws are good

Abedinpour 07-28-2019 08:58 PM

HI,
its gorgeous
do u have any photo from setup and inside?

Abedinpour 07-28-2019 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by kevinthoele (Post 12540148)
The 160 is overkill and just adding weight. I flew mine on K120 with tanks and missiles and it flew awesome and plenty fast with easy landings. I would rethink the 160???

Hi,
thank you,
our RC Field elevation here is about 3800 feet and always we lost about 10% of thrust ,
CG is about 330 -360 from leading edge , i'm going set with 345 , do you have any suggestion?
tnx again

Abedinpour 07-28-2019 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by kevinthoele (Post 12540150)

its beautiful!

ravill 07-28-2019 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by Abedinpour (Post 12540162)
HI,
its gorgeous
do u have any photo from setup and inside?

My F-100 is a bvm. But good luck!!

And I think a 160 is perfect!

Abedinpour 07-28-2019 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by ravill (Post 12540167)
My F-100 is a bvm. But good luck!!

And I think a 160 is perfect!

hi
BVM models are great , tnx
love your pilot lol

Abedinpour 07-31-2019 04:59 AM


Originally Posted by kevinthoele (Post 12540155)
Sorry, I used 345 for my cg which was perfect and recommended control throws are good

Hi;
thank you for https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...6354104d76.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...c26423dcab.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...9ff3a3fe76.jpg
your advise about Turbine and i'm going to install a BF=140F ;
do you have any photo from inside your F-100 ?
tnx
Saeid

ravill 07-31-2019 07:15 AM

Saeid, if you search my profile and look at threads I’ve started, I have a whole build thread from start to finish for my 100.

My 100 has a Jetcat Titan SE, which is a 160 N engine. I would not say it is over powered by any stretch. I think it is a perfect pairing.

ravill 07-31-2019 07:17 AM

Found it:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/rc-j...ld-thread.html

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...27fc63dcd.jpeg

Abedinpour 07-31-2019 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by ravill (Post 12540617)
Saeid, if you search my profile and look at threads I’ve started, I have a whole build thread from start to finish for my 100.

My 100 has a Jetcat Titan SE, which is a 160 N engine. I would not say it is over powered by any stretch. I think it is a perfect pairing.

Hi
thank you

kevinthoele 07-31-2019 05:05 PM

Abedinpour…………...I will see if I have pictures. Unfortunately I had an issue with the sun and lost the picture on mine. No fault of the plane. I will probably do another as they fly awesome with tanks and missiles loaded on. My landing flaps went as far down until they hit tanks for landing. 15 degrees for take off

Abedinpour 08-01-2019 02:35 AM


Originally Posted by kevinthoele (Post 12540716)
Abedinpour…………...I will see if I have pictures. Unfortunately I had an issue with the sun and lost the picture on mine. No fault of the plane. I will probably do another as they fly awesome with tanks and missiles loaded on. My landing flaps went as far down until they hit tanks for landing. 15 degrees for take off

thank you

Abedinpour 09-21-2019 10:48 AM

HI
the maiden flight has done , first flight was very scary because it was nose heavy and in banks i almost lost control ... but i was lucky,
after fix the CG , it flies very nicely and with BF140 i could go full power , half power is more than enough , with half power it flies really fast,
in 4th fly , landing gear failed and i had to do belly landing on dirt , i was lucky only damage was Exhaust , here the link for video of last flight in my instagram :

can i go faster or not? please let me know what do you think


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...7d95ce1a40.jpg

kevinthoele 09-21-2019 02:05 PM

What CG did you use for first flight. My recommended 345 was awesome. Did you use the 330 manual as starting point? If so I understand the nose heavy feel

Abedinpour 09-22-2019 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by kevinthoele (Post 12551741)
What CG did you use for first flight. My recommended 345 was awesome. Did you use the 330 manual as starting point? If so I understand the nose heavy feel

HI
i use 345 for CG in first flight but i didnt feel right i changed to 360 and slightly tail heavy and its ok now ,
this is link of Friday Belly Landing with almost no damage !!

ravill 09-22-2019 12:11 PM

Nice save on the landing!

F900 04-28-2020 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by Abedinpour (Post 12551718)
HI
the maiden flight has done , first flight was very scary because it was nose heavy and in banks i almost lost control ... but i was lucky,
after fix the CG , it flies very nicely and with BF140 i could go full power , half power is more than enough , with half power it flies really fast,
in 4th fly , landing gear failed and i had to do belly landing on dirt , i was lucky only damage was Exhaust , here the link for video of last flight in my instagram :
www.instagram.com/p/B2oqJVIHn-Z/?igshid=w4m2l5jbsow

Abedinpour - if I may ask where did you end up on the CG?, I am having the same issues, very nose heavy and in turns from what I am told even with 60-70% thrust (K140) it doesn't feel right and by applying a lot of elevator which it needs to hold the nose up.. wants to snap.

kevinthoele 04-28-2020 03:35 PM

I flew mine with the tanks and on inboard I installed missiles. CG was 345 and flew well with 120. Maybe clean wing it acts a little different. I noticed that you had doors open with gear down. I used UP valve that allowed doors to be close gear up and down.

Im glad you had minimal damage on gear up landing


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