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najary 09-21-2012 08:36 AM

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najary 09-21-2012 08:38 AM

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nonstoprc 09-22-2012 05:52 AM

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Hi Najary,

Another great build thread!

On the hinges to use, just wonder why not the CA type.

Thanks

najary 09-23-2012 06:12 AM

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ORIGINAL: nonstoprc

Hi Najary,

Another great build thread!

On the hinges to use, just wonder why not the CA type.

Thanks
Hi Nonstoprc,

I prefer the method of pivot pin over the plastic bending which I do not know how long it will last.

I like the GPM hinges because the epoxy glue penetrates into the holes and works like pins which prevent the hinges to come out from the control surface.

Best regards,

Isaac Najary

nonstoprc 09-23-2012 07:10 AM

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Understood. Maybe try a couple as the middle hingers first. I shared the similar view as yours before and now use CA type inclusively.

MAVROS 09-23-2012 10:05 PM

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G'day mate just wondering about your hinge cutter.......where can I get one

Reds

Macros

najary 09-23-2012 11:33 PM

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ORIGINAL: MAVROS

G'day mate just wondering about your hinge cutter.......where can I get one

Reds

Macros

Hi Macros,

Here it is:
http://www.centralhobbies.com/Tools/...ent.html#Taper

Best regards,

Isaac Najary

najary 09-24-2012 08:48 AM

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najary 09-25-2012 09:11 AM

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najary 09-25-2012 09:25 AM

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najary 09-26-2012 02:47 AM

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Saving 5.4 gram = (2.4+2.4+0.6)

Savox screws - 2.4 gram,

Central Hobbies Deep Head Socket Screws - 1.8 gram
http://www.centralhobbies.com/buildi...ers/fastnr.htm

Futaba screws - 1.2 gram

Elevators - 2.4 gram = 2X(2.4-1.2)

Ailerons - 2.4 gram = 2X(2.4-1.2)

Rudder - 0.6 gram = (2.4-1.8)


najary 09-26-2012 02:55 AM

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najary 09-29-2012 09:23 AM

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najary 10-02-2012 07:23 AM

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najary 10-02-2012 07:28 AM

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PatternFlyer 10-02-2012 11:41 PM

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Isaac,

I see you adding the cover to the bottom of the horizontal stab halves. itsn't that going to cause any trim (up trim)?

Ihncheol

nonstoprc 10-03-2012 03:39 AM

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On the choice of pushrods, it seems the metal ones could be replaced by solid carbon fiber type (say, 2.5mm) to save some weight.

najary 10-03-2012 08:03 AM

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ORIGINAL: PatternFlyer

Isaac,

I see you adding the cover to the bottom of the horizontal stab halves. itsn't that going to cause any trim (up trim)?

Ihncheol
Hi Ihncheol,

Theoretically you right, but it doesn't matter because you have to trim the plane anyway.

Best regards,

Isaac Najary

najary 10-03-2012 08:09 AM

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ORIGINAL: nonstoprc

On the choice of pushrods, it seems the metal ones could be replaced by solid carbon fiber type (say, 2.5mm) to save some weight.
Yes, but how you connect the carbon rod to the plastic bearing link?

Best regards,

Isaac Najary

f3a05 10-03-2012 09:05 AM

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ORIGINAL: najary



ORIGINAL: nonstoprc

On the choice of pushrods, it seems the metal ones could be replaced by solid carbon fiber type (say, 2.5mm) to save some weight.
Yes, but how you connect the carbon rod to the plastic bearing link?

Best regards,

Isaac Najary

Thin cyano run into the assembled pushrod.
Used on several models over time , hence the extra tube in the middle!
http://imageshack.us/a/img189/8439/cftube002.jpg

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nonstoprc 10-03-2012 11:11 AM

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Hi Najary,

I have great success with JB weld to glue the CF rod ends to the connectors.

Regards

Nonstop

Doug Cronkhite 10-03-2012 01:32 PM

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ORIGINAL: najary



ORIGINAL: PatternFlyer

Isaac,

I see you adding the cover to the bottom of the horizontal stab halves. itsn't that going to cause any trim (up trim)?

Ihncheol
Hi Ihncheol,

Theoretically you right, but it doesn't matter because you have to trim the plane anyway.

Best regards,

Isaac Najary


I think these style of covers actually create more drag than an uncovered servo arm. The large opening at the back of the fairing/cover creates a very turbulent point with a high drag rise.

najary 10-05-2012 03:48 AM

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ORIGINAL: f3a05


ORIGINAL: najary



ORIGINAL: nonstoprc

On the choice of pushrods, it seems the metal ones could be replaced by solid carbon fiber type (say, 2.5mm) to save some weight.
Yes, but how you connect the carbon rod to the plastic bearing link?

Best regards,

Isaac Najary

Thin cyano run into the assembled pushrod.
Used on several models over time , hence the extra tube in the middle!
http://imageshack.us/a/img189/8439/cftube002.jpg

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Hi Nonstop,

The carbon rod is superior were you want a long pushrod, but were you need a sort one I prefer the A metal pushrod because I is simpler and about the same weight.

Think about it.

Best regards,

Isaac Najary

nonstoprc 10-05-2012 05:39 AM

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Hi Najary,

yes, gluing the carbon fiber rods to the baring joints is more involving, as the length of the rod has to be cut precisely.

On comparison of weight of carbon fiber rods vs. metal rods, I am afraid CF rods definitely are lighter!

I quoted the [link=http://www.cstsales.com/carbon_rods-ss2.html]spec[/link] for Graphlite Carbon Fiber Rod: 0.098" Dia., 3 ft. long, 2.49 mm x 0.9 m, weight 7.2 grams

and the density [link=http://www.carbonfibertubeshop.com/tube%20properties.html]chart[/link] for CF tubes vs. other materials.


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