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Old 06-16-2019, 03:36 PM
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Iíll check out seagull, but I will especially want to hear more on the Royal.

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Old 06-16-2019, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by bryanmiick View Post

picked this up Dec 2018


flew feb 2019
nothing like gluing a bunch of wood together and then carving to look like an airplane.
flies great with a worn out OS 90 2 stroke
I'd like to hear more about how the Staggerwing flies. I built an Aristocraft kit of the Staggerwing. The plans were dated 1976 but the design really seemed more like an early 60's design as it was designed as a 2-3 channel airplane.. It flew nicely. it was fast and had a pretty flat glide for a biplane but the ground handling could be a bit of a handful. It looks like the Royal kit is a more scale representation.
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Old 06-16-2019, 06:00 PM
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I can post a question and ask the guys in the Facebook royal group. I got 2 built staggerwings and I've seen at least a few more. One of mine needs repairs other is bare bones. What I can tell you is if you go with retracts good luck because wheels fold up past leading edge of wing where you would normally have some method of securing wing to fuselage.
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Old 06-17-2019, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by I-fly-any-and-all View Post
I can post a question and ask the guys in the Facebook royal group. I got 2 built staggerwings and I've seen at least a few more. One of mine needs repairs other is bare bones. What I can tell you is if you go with retracts good luck because wheels fold up past leading edge of wing where you would normally have some method of securing wing to fuselage.
Yes, I would be impressed to see anyone who could produce a set of scale like retracts on a Royal Staggerwng. On the full scale Staggerwing the retracts and lower wing stubs are a part of the fuselage structure. All the successful retracts that I have seen involved plug in lower wings with the landing gear integral to the fuselage. The Staggerwing makes an attractive model but i'm pretty impressed when someone builds one into an everyday flier.
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Old 06-17-2019, 08:33 AM
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I don't see how you could possibly fit retracts in a Royal Staggerwing the wing is just not thick enough. I see Robart still builds gear for the Ziroli but the price will choke a horse.
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Old 06-17-2019, 07:26 PM
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the staggerwing in the picture I posted flies great, all of the take offs have been straight with no tendency to ground loop. it has nosed over on landings on a couple of occasions resulting in a bent cowl. the wing is definitely too thin for retracts, and I didn't even install the gear doors because I knew that they would cause problems down the road. it flies great inverted, and will do a nice outside loop. roll is good and very little trim was needed. it will land fast but it will also slow down with full flap. windy days are ok but it did get tossed on landing last time I flew it, damaged one wing tip that required a 15 minute repair. caught a severe crosswind gust on landing at 3 feet and cartwheeled. it is covered in solartex leftovers that I had.
one of these days I plan to build a bigger one, I have a set of Vintage RC plans as well as the MAN 1/4 scale plans. it looks like the vintage plans will fit retracts

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Old 06-17-2019, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by bryanmiick View Post
the staggerwing in the picture I posted flies great, all of the take offs have been straight with no tendency to ground loop. it has nosed over on landings on a couple of occasions resulting in a bent cowl. the wing is definitely too thin for retracts, and I didn't even install the gear doors because I knew that they would cause problems down the road. it flies great inverted, and will do a nice outside loop. roll is good and very little trim was needed. it will land fast but it will also slow down with full flap. windy days are ok but it did get tossed on landing last time I flew it, damaged one wing tip that required a 15 minute repair. caught a severe crosswind gust on landing at 3 feet and cartwheeled. it is covered in solartex leftovers that I had.
one of these days I plan to build a bigger one, I have a set of Vintage RC plans as well as the MAN 1/4 scale plans. it looks like the vintage plans will fit retracts
Thanks, that answers my question about the handling. It is interesting to me to see the differences in an model of an airplane as designed by two different designers. The Royal kit is a bit bigger than the Aristo-craft Staggerwing that I built ( a .60 vs and .40 size airplane). I think the Royal also has a more scale outline, especially in the fuselage profile. Interestingly the Aristo-craft kit was also cut in Japan. The Royal kit probably benefits from being designed up front as a 4-5 channel airplane.
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Old 07-17-2019, 11:06 PM
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Let's see what projects you guys have under way!
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Bought a super rare non dated royal catalog that seller said was the hobby shops master catalog early on in the mid 60s. More to come


Joel was kind enough to get me scans of the last known royal catalog to exist, i called royal publications and spoke to Dave Anderson formerly of engineering he said p61 was the last kit they worked on and the p40 never got off the drawing board.


Obtained the one and only official royal hell cat prototype from John Carlson, complete with all fax papers from a guy in California and conversation back to Dave Anderson st royal from August of 91 to December of 92 working on retracts and drawings also trying to create an instruction manual and says destroy all documentation once received. Let me know if interested in plans as nd templates.


Obtained blue prints to scratch built marutaka t2 jet and a good friend drafted all parts to scratch build. Let me know if interested.
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I have recently learned by googling the address shown on a set of royal building instructions that royal is very much alive and well, I was informed by sid gates former head of royal Electronics to contact Dave Anderson at royal, got in contact with him and he confirmed the p40 never got off the drawing board, last kit they worked on was the p61.
They stopped importing kits around 2000 and are now
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I recently obtained the 1 true prototype of the royal hell cat complete with royal plans. Included was many pages of documentation between Dave Anderson and a guy in California as they were working on retracts and creating an instruction manual, papers says to destroy all documentation once received. Kit came in a plane blue box. I'll get copies of plans made soon, these have royal logo and all templates.
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