Stug III Ausf G with winterketten tracks?
11-27-2008, 10:45 AM
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Stug III Ausf G with winterketten tracks?
I've been trying to find pictures of this, anyone have any of this combination? I like the appearance of those tracks but wouldn't want it to be inaccurate.
If not, I guess I could convert it to an F/8 but that would take more time.
If not, I guess I could convert it to an F/8 but that would take more time.
11-27-2008, 10:55 AM
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RE: Stug III Ausf G with winterketten tracks?
ORIGINAL: Panther F
I've been trying to find pictures of this, anyone have any of this combination? I like the appearance of those tracks but wouldn't want it to be inaccurate.
If not, I guess I could convert it to an F/8 but that would take more time.
I've been trying to find pictures of this, anyone have any of this combination? I like the appearance of those tracks but wouldn't want it to be inaccurate.
If not, I guess I could convert it to an F/8 but that would take more time.
Bill
11-27-2008, 11:54 AM
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RE: Stug III Ausf G with winterketten tracks?
I can't remember where I found the color pics, I'm pretty sure they come from a retrieved Stug found in a russian swamp, but....
The b&w ones are from the Eastern Front, unit unknown to me.
The b&w ones are from the Eastern Front, unit unknown to me.
11-27-2008, 12:11 PM
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RE: Stug III Ausf G with winterketten tracks?
forgive my ignorance about the stug models as i also am not well versed with the panzer 3&4[
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but what model is this? i just liked the heavy tanks but after seeing the stug......hmmmmm[:-]
]but what model is this? i just liked the heavy tanks but after seeing the stug......hmmmmm[:-]
11-27-2008, 12:12 PM
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Thanks Rob, that's what I was looking for. uhu, the last 2 pictures are an F and a F/8, but the first 2 are G's. Very nice!
Thanks guys!
Jeff
Thanks guys!
Jeff
11-27-2008, 12:13 PM
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It is an Ausf G
11-27-2008, 12:14 PM
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RE: Stug III Ausf G with winterketten tracks?
ORIGINAL: uhu
Hi Rccommand, your Winterketten are mounted backwards
Regards
Hi Rccommand, your Winterketten are mounted backwards
Regards
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11-27-2008, 12:16 PM
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RE: Stug III Ausf G with winterketten tracks?
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Hello, I was going to say the same, however, the color photos show them the way we have them..hmm, which is correct?
Bill
ORIGINAL: uhu
Hi Rccommand, your Winterketten are mounted backwards
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Hi Rccommand, your Winterketten are mounted backwards
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Bill
11-27-2008, 12:28 PM
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I checked with one of my books and both pictures above are incorrect.
11-27-2008, 12:33 PM
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RE: Stug III Ausf G with winterketten tracks?
ORIGINAL: Panther F
I checked with one of my books and both pictures above are incorrect.
I checked with one of my books and both pictures above are incorrect.
Which pics show the correct mounting?
Thanks,
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11-27-2008, 12:39 PM
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RE: Stug III Ausf G with winterketten tracks?
ORIGINAL: Panther F
I've been trying to find pictures of this, anyone have any of this combination? I like the appearance of those tracks but wouldn't want it to be inaccurate.
If not, I guess I could convert it to an F/8 but that would take more time.
I've been trying to find pictures of this, anyone have any of this combination? I like the appearance of those tracks but wouldn't want it to be inaccurate.
If not, I guess I could convert it to an F/8 but that would take more time.
Hello,
Hope these will help:
- first one is from Baltic Provinces on 14 July 1944 -with later style wider Ostketten
- second one is taken in summer -winterkettens are still on because of shortage of "normalketten"
Yours,
Rabbit
11-27-2008, 12:40 PM
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Here's an F/8 Stug III. Notice the direction of the tracks.
Red Rabbit, those both look like Ostketten tracks to me.
Bill, neither.
Red Rabbit, those both look like Ostketten tracks to me.
Bill, neither.
11-27-2008, 12:48 PM
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RE: Stug III Ausf G with winterketten tracks?
ORIGINAL: Panther F
Here's an F/8 Stug III. Notice the direction of the tracks.
Red Rabbit, those both look like Ostketten tracks to me.
Bill, neither.
Here's an F/8 Stug III. Notice the direction of the tracks.
Red Rabbit, those both look like Ostketten tracks to me.
Bill, neither.
Yours,
RR
11-27-2008, 02:32 PM
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RE: Stug III Ausf G with winterketten tracks?
Hi Rccommand
Initial Winterketten were 61/400/120 tracks with symmetrical extensions attached and sometimes evenly spaced ice cleats. I wasn't looking at your extensions, but at your actual tracks, and they are clearly reversed, notice that the Winterketten you sell are symmetrical, one left and one right track, unlike Ostketten which had casted one-piece wider links and were asymmetrical when installed.
The pictures below show two Winterketten, the first with additional ice-cleats mounted and the second one without.
Sometimes crews or field workshops mounted tracks reversed due to shortage of spares, and with Winterketten being prone to suffer heavy damage, there are many pictures showing PZIII or Stug with two left or two right Winterketten mounted.
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Initial Winterketten were 61/400/120 tracks with symmetrical extensions attached and sometimes evenly spaced ice cleats. I wasn't looking at your extensions, but at your actual tracks, and they are clearly reversed, notice that the Winterketten you sell are symmetrical, one left and one right track, unlike Ostketten which had casted one-piece wider links and were asymmetrical when installed.
The pictures below show two Winterketten, the first with additional ice-cleats mounted and the second one without.
Sometimes crews or field workshops mounted tracks reversed due to shortage of spares, and with Winterketten being prone to suffer heavy damage, there are many pictures showing PZIII or Stug with two left or two right Winterketten mounted.
@PantherF
I knew, just showing examples
11-27-2008, 02:36 PM
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RE: Stug III Ausf G with winterketten tracks?
ORIGINAL: uhu
Hi Rccommand
Initial Winterketten were 61/400/120 tracks with symmetrical extensions attached and sometimes evenly spaced ice cleats. I wasn't looking at your extensions, but at your actual tracks, and they are clearly reversed, notice that the Winterketten you sell are symmetrical, one left and one right track, unlike Ostketten which had casted one-piece wider links and were asymmetrical when installed.
The pictures below show two Winterketten, the first with additional ice-cleats mounted and the second one without.
Sometimes crews or field workshops mounted tracks reversed due to shortage of spares, and with Winterketten being prone to suffer heavy damage, there are many pictures showing PZIII or Stug with two left or two right Winterketten mounted.
@PantherF
I knew, just showing examples
Hi Rccommand
Initial Winterketten were 61/400/120 tracks with symmetrical extensions attached and sometimes evenly spaced ice cleats. I wasn't looking at your extensions, but at your actual tracks, and they are clearly reversed, notice that the Winterketten you sell are symmetrical, one left and one right track, unlike Ostketten which had casted one-piece wider links and were asymmetrical when installed.
The pictures below show two Winterketten, the first with additional ice-cleats mounted and the second one without.
Sometimes crews or field workshops mounted tracks reversed due to shortage of spares, and with Winterketten being prone to suffer heavy damage, there are many pictures showing PZIII or Stug with two left or two right Winterketten mounted.
@PantherF
I knew, just showing examples
Bill
11-27-2008, 02:45 PM
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RE: Stug III Ausf G with winterketten tracks?
You'r welcome Rccommand
I have found (buried depply down in my HD) a self-explanatory picture of an initial right-side left-mounted Winterkette clearly showing the additional ice cleat.
Regards
I have found (buried depply down in my HD) a self-explanatory picture of an initial right-side left-mounted Winterkette clearly showing the additional ice cleat.
Regards
11-27-2008, 03:18 PM
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RE: Stug III Ausf G with winterketten tracks?
ORIGINAL: uhu
@PantherF
I knew, just showing examples
@PantherF
I knew, just showing examples
Thanks for helping out! [sm=thumbs_up.gif]
11-27-2008, 10:44 PM
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RE: Stug III Ausf G with winterketten tracks?
If you look closely you can see in the first pic that the right track is correct and the left track is not The black and white photos appear too be correct.
