Go Back  RCU Forums > RC Airplanes > RC Warbirds and Warplanes
Reload this Page >

CARF F4U-1 Corsair build thread

Community
Search
Notices
RC Warbirds and Warplanes Discuss rc warbirds and warplanes in this forum.

CARF F4U-1 Corsair build thread

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-22-2012, 05:20 PM
  #801  
panhandler
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Fredonia, NY
Posts: 244
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default RE: CARF F4U-1 Corsair build thread


ORIGINAL: ram3500-RCU


ORIGINAL: iflytailies

for those who need conversions: type ''3mm in in'' in your Google search bar. Answer: ''0.118110236 in''
Hey, didn't know that. Thanks.

Or you can mutliply your mm x .03937

3mm x .03937 =.1181
Old 01-22-2012, 06:14 PM
  #802  
ram3500-RCU
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (221)
 
ram3500-RCU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: n. canton, OH
Posts: 9,737
Received 12 Likes on 6 Posts
Default RE: CARF F4U-1 Corsair build thread


ORIGINAL: panhandler


ORIGINAL: ram3500-RCU


ORIGINAL: iflytailies

for those who need conversions: type ''3mm in in'' in your Google search bar. Answer: ''0.118110236 in''
Hey, didn't know that. Thanks.

Or you can mutliply your mm x .03937

3mm x .03937 =.1181
Excellent. Isn't math cool.

I just came from 'plant 1'. The wings are looking very good. Brian is almost done hinging everything. Just 1/2 of the right wing hinges to glue. The fit is as good as it could be, and looks very scale. Much better than our ARF version. A lot of time was taken fitting these control surfaces to the wing.

Unfortunately, I left my camera in my wife's car, and she went to work tonight at the hospital. I'll get pictures later.
Old 01-22-2012, 06:16 PM
  #803  
ram3500-RCU
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (221)
 
ram3500-RCU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: n. canton, OH
Posts: 9,737
Received 12 Likes on 6 Posts
Default RE: CARF F4U-1 Corsair build thread


ORIGINAL: iflytailies

1/5 scale switches# 2002-5:

height of switch: 3mm
height of switch + base: 5mm

1/4 scale switches# 2002-4:

height of switch: 6mm
height of switch + base: 8.5mm
Should I order them now or wait till I see them in stock? Thanks.
Old 01-22-2012, 06:38 PM
  #804  
iflytailies
My Feedback: (82)
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Lancaster, PA
Posts: 498
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: CARF F4U-1 Corsair build thread

PM me your email and how many you want me to reserve for you. I will contact you when they are in stock and send you an invoice
Old 01-22-2012, 06:39 PM
  #805  
ram3500-RCU
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (221)
 
ram3500-RCU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: n. canton, OH
Posts: 9,737
Received 12 Likes on 6 Posts
Default RE: CARF F4U-1 Corsair build thread


ORIGINAL: iflytailies

PM me your email and how many you want me to reserve for you. I will contact you when they are in stock and send you an invoice
Roger that.
Old 01-22-2012, 07:04 PM
  #806  
ram3500-RCU
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (221)
 
ram3500-RCU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: n. canton, OH
Posts: 9,737
Received 12 Likes on 6 Posts
Default RE: CARF F4U-1 Corsair build thread


ORIGINAL: iflytailies

PM me your email and how many you want me to reserve for you. I will contact you when they are in stock and send you an invoice
PM sent. Thanks.
Old 01-22-2012, 07:07 PM
  #807  
iflytailies
My Feedback: (82)
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Lancaster, PA
Posts: 498
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: CARF F4U-1 Corsair build thread

got it!
Old 01-22-2012, 09:52 PM
  #808  
ram3500-RCU
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (221)
 
ram3500-RCU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: n. canton, OH
Posts: 9,737
Received 12 Likes on 6 Posts
Default RE: CARF F4U-1 Corsair build thread

Brian, I checked on the small inboard aileron trim tabs, and they DID work like the ones on the elevator. If the aileron was up, the tab was down, and so forth. They were not adjustable by the pilot. This provided a boost to the control stick. These will have to move in a scale manor. Only the outer tab on the left aileron was adjustable and can be fixed on our model.
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Zx69989.jpg
Views:	164
Size:	37.1 KB
ID:	1717378  
Old 01-23-2012, 07:09 PM
  #809  
ram3500-RCU
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (221)
 
ram3500-RCU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: n. canton, OH
Posts: 9,737
Received 12 Likes on 6 Posts
Default RE: CARF F4U-1 Corsair build thread

I have the gear in my shop for painting, so I thought I'd post some more pictures of the electric conversion.
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Rp43371.jpg
Views:	141
Size:	195.6 KB
ID:	1717752   Click image for larger version

Name:	Ca80294.jpg
Views:	129
Size:	212.1 KB
ID:	1717753   Click image for larger version

Name:	Sq46222.jpg
Views:	132
Size:	203.0 KB
ID:	1717754   Click image for larger version

Name:	By76432.jpg
Views:	135
Size:	215.1 KB
ID:	1717755   Click image for larger version

Name:	Om34165.jpg
Views:	125
Size:	207.2 KB
ID:	1717756   Click image for larger version

Name:	Ec87526.jpg
Views:	137
Size:	209.1 KB
ID:	1717757  
Old 01-23-2012, 08:55 PM
  #810  
MANFRED
My Feedback: (27)
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: san diego, CA
Posts: 1,679
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default RE: CARF F4U-1 Corsair build thread

Gary 2 things, first will you share your design for the tail gear door geometry. Second, what will you use for the door function on the main gear? I think I might have to get the down and locked option as well. $500 for the tri set
Old 01-23-2012, 09:41 PM
  #811  
ram3500-RCU
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (221)
 
ram3500-RCU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: n. canton, OH
Posts: 9,737
Received 12 Likes on 6 Posts
Default RE: CARF F4U-1 Corsair build thread


ORIGINAL: MANFRED

Gary 2 things, first will you share your design for the tail gear door geometry. Second, what will you use for the door function on the main gear? I think I might have to get the down and locked option as well. $500 for the tri set
Absolutely. I need to go through the final parts and take some measurements for you. Those numbers, with close up pictures should do it, right? A list of the parts I used may be of use as well.

The main gear doors will be air, the only air on the plane. Just (4) air cylinders, (2) in each bay. The system will be a closed one, as all the components will be in the wing. Only the wires for the sequencer will go to the fuselage. With the electric wing conversion, we have a lot of room in the wing now.

If we were to loose the air, the electric gear will push the doors open, for a normal landing. And the tail is all electric as well, so the chances of needed a belly landing for gear problems are very very slim.
Old 01-23-2012, 09:44 PM
  #812  
ram3500-RCU
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (221)
 
ram3500-RCU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: n. canton, OH
Posts: 9,737
Received 12 Likes on 6 Posts
Default RE: CARF F4U-1 Corsair build thread

ORIGINAL: MANFRED

Gary 2 things, first will you share your design for the tail gear door geometry. Second, what will you use for the door function on the main gear? I think I might have to get the down and locked option as well. $500 for the tri set
Keep in mind that this conversion cost is partially offset by the air components you will not need to buy.

It would be nice if Sierra made available the gear without the air cylinders as well. This would further reduce the net cost of the conversion.
Old 01-23-2012, 09:55 PM
  #813  
ram3500-RCU
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (221)
 
ram3500-RCU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: n. canton, OH
Posts: 9,737
Received 12 Likes on 6 Posts
Default RE: CARF F4U-1 Corsair build thread

BTW, on the strut covers on the mains, Brian is not just fastening them to the struts. He is articulating them as per the full scale, and we will have the scale leather cover to bridge the gap at the leading edge.
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Ge95771.jpg
Views:	180
Size:	55.0 KB
ID:	1717809  
Old 01-23-2012, 10:21 PM
  #814  
ram3500-RCU
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (221)
 
ram3500-RCU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: n. canton, OH
Posts: 9,737
Received 12 Likes on 6 Posts
Default RE: CARF F4U-1 Corsair build thread

The business end.

2.5 deg right, and .5 deg up thrust.
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Yw68805.jpg
Views:	177
Size:	225.2 KB
ID:	1717823  
Old 01-23-2012, 10:36 PM
  #815  
ram3500-RCU
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (221)
 
ram3500-RCU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: n. canton, OH
Posts: 9,737
Received 12 Likes on 6 Posts
Default RE: CARF F4U-1 Corsair build thread

I little more telemetry data, compliments of Phil and Greg.

" Phil moved the temperature probe to #1 cylinder and we saw 155-165 degrees F in flight verses the 135-145 F we were seeing on #3 cylinder. I also finally closed the cowl flaps in flight and we saw engine temperature increase by 10 degrees."

Thanks guys.

Old 01-24-2012, 07:59 AM
  #816  
MANFRED
My Feedback: (27)
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: san diego, CA
Posts: 1,679
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default RE: CARF F4U-1 Corsair build thread

Thanks Gary, that setup is awesome. Nice Prop turner too!
Old 01-25-2012, 06:28 PM
  #817  
MANFRED
My Feedback: (27)
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: san diego, CA
Posts: 1,679
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default RE: CARF F4U-1 Corsair build thread

2 big boxes are here!!!
Old 01-25-2012, 06:33 PM
  #818  
ram3500-RCU
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (221)
 
ram3500-RCU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: n. canton, OH
Posts: 9,737
Received 12 Likes on 6 Posts
Default RE: CARF F4U-1 Corsair build thread

ORIGINAL: MANFRED

2 big boxes are here!!!
Exciting. How about those nice custom covers on all the wing and tail parts. I thought that was pretty classy.

Feel free to post in this thread about your experiences with her.

I'll have that information on the gear doors shortly.
Old 01-25-2012, 08:27 PM
  #819  
ram3500-RCU
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (221)
 
ram3500-RCU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: n. canton, OH
Posts: 9,737
Received 12 Likes on 6 Posts
Default RE: CARF F4U-1 Corsair build thread

ORIGINAL: MANFRED

Gary 2 things, first will you share your design for the tail gear door geometry. Second, what will you use for the door function on the main gear? I think I might have to get the down and locked option as well. $500 for the tri set
I now have some dimensions for those who may want to try this approach to your tail doors. When I have more time, I'll do a drawing and post the PDF file of it. For now, here are some things that will help.

First, the parts. I used

-(4) Dubro 4-40 ball links. (cut 5/16" off each one)
-(2) 1/2" 4-40 all thread
-(2) 7/16" X 2 3/8" X 1/16" brass
-(2) 1" X 1 1/2" G-10 or 1/8" ply (for the horns on the doors)
-(2) 4-40 cap screws 1/2" with lock nuts (these replace the OME bolts for the piston anchor bracket, and are also used for your new link mount)

Now, the control arms. These are adjustable. Mine are as follows, measured center to center on the ball links. The left is 1 5/16", and the right is 1 3/8". You will want a 10 deg. twist in the ball links.

The anchor bracket mounted to the gear is two pieces of brass soldered together to make an angle bracket. (you can also use a 1/2 X 1/2" aluminum angle if you have access to one. Drill two holes for the 4-40 Dubro ball links 1/4" in from each side, or exactly 1 7/8" center to center, and 5/16" up. These you can elongate vertically about 1/8" or so, so you have some adjustment up and down from this 5/16" location. Mine are set at 5/16.

The horn mounted to the door. Again, I'll make a drawing of it and post it later, but the exact location of the ball link attached to the door ( where the ball link attaches, NOT where the center of the ball is) is2 1/8" back from the front of the door, 3/4" up from the surface of the door to the center of the bolt, and 7/16" toward the center and off the hinge side of the door. The arm will do this for you if shaped correctly. Mine is glued to the inside of the door at a 12 deg angle, as you can see in the picture.

The cut out for the tire is important as well. Here is some info on that. First, I cut the doors apart 9 5/16" back from the front. This allows the entire wheel cut-out to be in the front doors (scale). That cut out is 2 1/2" long and runs from 6 9/16" back to 9 1/16" back.

Here are some more close ups. Please ask if I missed anything you need.
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Pn35732.jpg
Views:	126
Size:	219.7 KB
ID:	1719143   Click image for larger version

Name:	Mk27707.jpg
Views:	118
Size:	224.9 KB
ID:	1719144   Click image for larger version

Name:	Yw67901.jpg
Views:	129
Size:	217.6 KB
ID:	1719145  
Old 01-25-2012, 08:57 PM
  #820  
ram3500-RCU
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (221)
 
ram3500-RCU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: n. canton, OH
Posts: 9,737
Received 12 Likes on 6 Posts
Default RE: CARF F4U-1 Corsair build thread

One more thing, the location of the hole in the front doors for the tire, is dependent on the bulkhead the gear is mounted to being 3/16" forward of the front of the bay opening. The ARF has this structure glued in, but the kit does not, and your location may vary slightly. You will simply add or subtract from my number, depending on where your bulkhead is located.

The bulkhead on our #1, the ARF version, is 1/8" forward of the opening.

There are other variables like where exactly your hinges are glued in, but I think there is enough adjustment in the design to accommodate these variables. I worked on one side at a time, as you saw in the video. This is much easier.

Have fun.
Old 01-26-2012, 02:01 PM
  #821  
ram3500-RCU
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (221)
 
ram3500-RCU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: n. canton, OH
Posts: 9,737
Received 12 Likes on 6 Posts
Default RE: CARF F4U-1 Corsair build thread

Another tip on my install on the tail gear is where to have the pull-pull cables come through the bulkhead. This is critical due to the links for doors. The hole for them needs to be next to the plywood mounting plate, and 5/8" down from the bottom of the fuselage. The cable sleeve should be pulled through till it lays on top of the links. This way the metal steering cable is not in contact with the arms. As the gear is retracted, the cables lay over the arms quite nicely. They shorten up about 1/4". Enough slack, but not so much that things get out of whack.

Here you can see the cable and it's sheath, and how it is run over the arm.
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Ro41881.jpg
Views:	175
Size:	176.1 KB
ID:	1719478  
Old 01-26-2012, 02:17 PM
  #822  
splinterz25
Senior Member
 
splinterz25's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: glenburnie, MD
Posts: 1,794
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
Default RE: CARF F4U-1 Corsair build thread

this is my other fav warbird and you are doing a fantastic reproduction true to life build and what a engine. I hope you are entering it in some kind of show or contest best of luck with the rest of the build.

Bruce
Old 01-26-2012, 03:10 PM
  #823  
ram3500-RCU
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (221)
 
ram3500-RCU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: n. canton, OH
Posts: 9,737
Received 12 Likes on 6 Posts
Default RE: CARF F4U-1 Corsair build thread

ORIGINAL: splinterz25

this is my other fav warbird and you are doing a fantastic reproduction true to life build and what a engine. I hope you are entering it in some kind of show or contest best of luck with the rest of the build.

Bruce
Thank you Bruce.

I'm happy to announce, your wish has come true.

She will be entered in the static competition at the 2012 Toledo RC show this spring, and then it is on to the 2012 Top Gun event in Lakeland Fl. the first week in May, where she will compete in the 'unrestricted' class, and be flown by non other than Dino DiGorgio. We are very pleased and proud to have him as her pilot for her first flying competition.

I will fly our Meister P-47 Zombie at Top Gun in another class.

Old 01-26-2012, 07:41 PM
  #824  
ram3500-RCU
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (221)
 
ram3500-RCU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: n. canton, OH
Posts: 9,737
Received 12 Likes on 6 Posts
Default RE: CARF F4U-1 Corsair build thread

Doing some panting of various components of the gear like the main wheels and gear, air cylinders and such, so I finished the tail hook as well. Distressing and weathering will follow later. I like to do that on the entire air frame at the same time.
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Jh14753.jpg
Views:	201
Size:	215.9 KB
ID:	1719590  
Old 01-26-2012, 07:54 PM
  #825  
ram3500-RCU
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (221)
 
ram3500-RCU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: n. canton, OH
Posts: 9,737
Received 12 Likes on 6 Posts
Default RE: CARF F4U-1 Corsair build thread

Here is how the tail hook can move without damage as the gear absorbs shock on the ground.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNKkP...ature=youtu.be


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.