redtail

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Boyd and Larry - don't kid yourselves. I have and will continue LEARNING from each of you guys and all the others who chime in on each of our build threads. But - it is a Scale Builders Site so I guess the scale builders are there. Nice bunch of guys - ALSO. Chic

redtail

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May you all have a Wonderful Holiday and Christmas Season. May you all also have a Healthy and Fruitful New Year. Chic

lkahn4

Chic,
I second that, and hope that Santa delivers enough balsa that we are covered in balsa dust by the end of January

Larry

redtail

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Happy New Year and Blue Skies And Light Winds To Everyone. Chic

lkahn4

I 2nd that

F86_SABRE

All the best for the coming year to you all

jdeluyck

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Hey Noah, Peter, or anyone with experience with a Moki radial on the Kellogg TBM..

Did you do any reinforcement to the formers or stringers between the firewall (F1) and the next formers (F2-F4)?

I am FINALLY making some progress on mine and wanted some feedback on the structural integrity at the firewall, before I get further along.

Thanks,
Jerry

butlern

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Hey, Jerry

I did a fair bit of messing with the front formers. shifted the forward-most former back to accommodate the longer Moki engine.

Here is a link to the start of the relevant descriptions and photos:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/8605188-post253.html

I think Peter ended up with a much better installation, but I don't recall seeing the details of how he finessed it all into place.

Perhaps he'll chime in here?

Upload some pictures of your build here, man!

Best

Noah

jdeluyck

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Hey Noah,

I read all what you posted several times I cannot thank you and the others on this forum enough for keeping it alive, as there is a TON of valuable information. I used what both you and Peter did with the false (F0) firewall, and that has work out great.

My question is around the statement you made as follows:

The other thing I did was to cut a new F-3. My plan is to tie together F-1 through F-4 with hardwood dowls to help distribute the forces (torque and weight) of the radial engine. The original F-3 was, in my opinion, too thin for this particular motor installation. For those keeping score, there is no F-2. Not sure why that number was omitted from the plans and drawings.

Did you add the dowels (dowls) or just use the stringers on the plans?
Thanks,
Jerry

Here are a couple of pictures of my TBM.



Fuselage under way!


My Question is did you beef up the stringers between these formers?


Removal firewall



Horizontal stab test placement

lkahn4

Jerry,
not sure which is more impressive the build or the shop, nice work.
FYI, if that's a Sierra tail wheel double check that it locks when in the dow position, ours needed to be filed a bit to get it to lock.

Larry

butlern

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Looks great, Jerry!

Yes, sorry. I did use dowels. 1/4 inch hardwood, installed about 5-6, as I recall, distributed equally around F1 (drilled half-way between inner and outer edges of F1). Used a long drill bit so I could pass the dowel through 3-4 formers (or as many as I could tack together. Then cut the excess flush with front of F1. used hysol to lock them into place where they passed through each former.

Not sure if I captured any pictures of that. I will have to go back and check. Might have been shown in later stages of build. Maybe not, as I sheeted the fuse pretty quickly after that.

Noah

butlern

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couldn't find a good picture, but in the attached I circled (in red) the areas where I think I see the ends of the dowels cut off and sanded flush.

jdeluyck

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Thanks Larry!
I actually replace part of the scissor to make it close further, and made sure it over locks... I saw this tidbit in this thread

jdeluyck

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Thanks Noah! I think I am going to do something similar.

butlern

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If you zoom in on the picture, you can see the dowel passing from F1 through F3 and F4. I added an arrow below. I still think the plans don't show an F2, right? Maybe I dreamed all the up.

Anyway, you cannot pass through too many formers at the bottom (because the torpedo bay, of course), but you should be able to tie several together with some dowels.

Also, I am planning a new project for the summer (I'll be starting it this summer)... 1/3 scale Brewster Buffalo!

And of course I'll be needing some stencils from you eventually!

Best,

Noah

redtail

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I'm BACK. Turning attention back on the Royal Navy TBF Avenger getting it ready for its maiden. Next week will begin with the engine install, etc. Glad to be back. I see we have another build. Great news. There is a scale event in June in Ohio. Lets see if I can manage to attend and work out some bugs. Can't thank all of you who contributed heavy to my build - again THANKS. The 1/8th scale Royal Navy Sea Vixen turbine can wait till Fall. Jerry, what a great looking shop, and the build isn't half bad either. I see the center section of the wing and tail feathers sitting in the background. Another Moki, wow, should sound and fly just great. Can't keep up with you Moki guys. I know the guys welcomed you, so do I. Keep the photos coming. Smile. Chic

lkahn4

Well Alright, let's get that puppy balanced and on her feet

redtail

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Thanks Larry - you are a real trooper. There is a scale event in Ohio in June, looking forward to that date. Chic

butlern

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YES!

Looking forward to seeing the final stages, Chic!

Noah

lkahn4

Noah,
Glad to see you're still following.
Hope all is well and can't wait to see the new project

Larry

redtail

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To Larry and Noah. My Brothers from another Mother. You guys are the BEST. So Very Happy to know you are still there. Chic

redtail

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To All the Avenger Builders and Flyers - did you balance the Avenger with the wheels up or down? I am sort of back in the saddle. Many thanks. Chic

pittsdriver

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I saw that Nick Ziroli has the plans and accessories now. Hope that is not old news but just happened to see that yesterday.

redtail

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Nick does have the Avenger package. Ask for Lauren. Chic

butlern

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I would have to check back through the thread to see if documented that, but I think it should not matter too much given the gear retract nearly straight out into the wing, so CG should be too affected.

Let me dig around a bit, Chic.

Have you run the engine?! Taxi tested?