Lado retracts, do the really exist?
11-19-2009, 07:41 PM
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RE: Lado retracts, do the really exist?
I really do think this thread has gone on far longer then it should have, and I feel that people are starting to go a little to far with comments and insults from both sides, I thought we were all suppose to be grown ups, ones that can speak and argue a point or disagree rationally and respectfully. its unfortunate because both sides have validity and much can be learned from the positive and negative, to bad some of us don't have the maturity to see that
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RE: Lado retracts, do the really exist?
ORIGINAL: TOMAPOWA
gageebees,
Unfortunately you ''fail to see '' a lot more than you think.....
My point was I would never advertise something for sale (like Doug did with his retracts months ago) if I did not have them ready to ship... can't make it any simpler than that.
gageebees,
Unfortunately you ''fail to see '' a lot more than you think.....
My point was I would never advertise something for sale (like Doug did with his retracts months ago) if I did not have them ready to ship... can't make it any simpler than that.
11-19-2009, 08:16 PM
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News Flash from West Central Florida’s News Television!
November 18, 2009
A thunderous explosion rocked this small community early this evening. The home of Dan M, only name provided, was destroyed in great clap of thunder. Fire Marshals said the explosion was caused while Mr. Dan M was passing large amounts of cantankerous gas while at his computer, obviously directed at postings on an online site
A spark was generated during his uncontrolled blathering and rapid pounding on the keyboard setting off the surrounding gas cloud. While dashing from the house with hair ablaze, he tipped over his pi$$ bucket onto a beloved ring tailed cat.
During his escape, the cat became entangled in Mr. Dan M’s shovel sized feet causing a collision with the door jamb, dislocating his last remaining tooth. The ensuing stumble over the cat caused two somersaults across the lawn and onto a walkway where a white coated orderly ran over Mr. M’s fingers with his oatmeal cart.
At the hospital, the ER physician stated that his hair will grow back and splinting and bandaging the injuries was fairly simple. However prying Mr. M’s head out of his posterior was difficult, successful but did leave an osidious odor.
Mr. M’s friend, identified only as GaGeeBees from Georgia, arrived to take him home but security deemed him a threat due to similar incoherent ranting and gas expulsion. He was escorted out of the facility and last seen jabbering while pedaling a three wheel bicycle towards the park with a paper airplane twirling from his hat.
See video at 11:00
November 18, 2009
A thunderous explosion rocked this small community early this evening. The home of Dan M, only name provided, was destroyed in great clap of thunder. Fire Marshals said the explosion was caused while Mr. Dan M was passing large amounts of cantankerous gas while at his computer, obviously directed at postings on an online site
A spark was generated during his uncontrolled blathering and rapid pounding on the keyboard setting off the surrounding gas cloud. While dashing from the house with hair ablaze, he tipped over his pi$$ bucket onto a beloved ring tailed cat.
During his escape, the cat became entangled in Mr. Dan M’s shovel sized feet causing a collision with the door jamb, dislocating his last remaining tooth. The ensuing stumble over the cat caused two somersaults across the lawn and onto a walkway where a white coated orderly ran over Mr. M’s fingers with his oatmeal cart.
At the hospital, the ER physician stated that his hair will grow back and splinting and bandaging the injuries was fairly simple. However prying Mr. M’s head out of his posterior was difficult, successful but did leave an osidious odor.
Mr. M’s friend, identified only as GaGeeBees from Georgia, arrived to take him home but security deemed him a threat due to similar incoherent ranting and gas expulsion. He was escorted out of the facility and last seen jabbering while pedaling a three wheel bicycle towards the park with a paper airplane twirling from his hat.
See video at 11:00
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ORIGINAL: Dan M
You are a prime example of what is wrong with this entire thread , if it weren't for your non stop screaming ''RIPOFF'' about a product you HAVE NEVER ORDERED OR OWNED this thread would probably be about 4 PAGES SHORTER !
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You are a prime example of what is wrong with this entire thread , if it weren't for your non stop screaming ''RIPOFF'' about a product you HAVE NEVER ORDERED OR OWNED this thread would probably be about 4 PAGES SHORTER !
Dan
11-19-2009, 08:32 PM
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RE: Lado retracts, do the really exist?
Wow. This might be a record setting day on this thread for name calling and drama. Not in the least boring for sure 
More or less on topic - has anyone heard from or talked to Doug or recieved any product or refunds or e-mail or anything from Lado at all in the last couple of weeks?
This feels like an unusually long period of silence/inactivity even for Doug.
Im wondering if the title of the thread might not be more to the point than we thought.
More or less on topic - has anyone heard from or talked to Doug or recieved any product or refunds or e-mail or anything from Lado at all in the last couple of weeks?
This feels like an unusually long period of silence/inactivity even for Doug.
Im wondering if the title of the thread might not be more to the point than we thought.
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ORIGINAL: Larry3215
Wow. This might be a record setting day on this thread for name calling and drama. Not in the least boring for sure
More or less on topic - has anyone heard from or talked to Doug or recieved any product or refunds or e-mail or anything from Lado at all in the last couple of weeks?
This feels like an unusually long period of silence/inactivity even for Doug.
Im wondering if the title of the thread might not be more to the point than we thought.
Wow. This might be a record setting day on this thread for name calling and drama. Not in the least boring for sure
More or less on topic - has anyone heard from or talked to Doug or recieved any product or refunds or e-mail or anything from Lado at all in the last couple of weeks?
This feels like an unusually long period of silence/inactivity even for Doug.
Im wondering if the title of the thread might not be more to the point than we thought.
i don't see that he has ever "ripped anyone off" yet and i think that you guys should give him a bit more time to reply here or start replying in masse to all of you who have concerns .
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11-19-2009, 10:44 PM
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ORIGINAL: Dan M
or possibly He could be very ill ... or have other problems that would make this the least of his concerns .
i don't see that he has ever ''ripped anyone off'' yet and i think that you guys should give him a bit more time to reply here or start replying in masse to all of you who have concerns .
Dan
or possibly He could be very ill ... or have other problems that would make this the least of his concerns .
i don't see that he has ever ''ripped anyone off'' yet and i think that you guys should give him a bit more time to reply here or start replying in masse to all of you who have concerns .
Dan
Sorry but 4 weeks is lots of time to reply! How long should we wait? 4 months? He is the one that said he would reply to status emails within 1 working day!
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PRICELESS !!
Stop... stop... my stomach hurts....
Yes... for sure this discussion needs a little levity... (amoung other things... like an active moderator to control the renegades...)
Hey... I got a novel idea... why don't all you people that actually got their gear from Doug post some nice pics and even vids of their gear/project (I know a few already did... way back when in this thread...) Tell us your good/bad stories regarding them (how they operate, how the install was, etc...).... This would in fact help Doug (to some extent)... rather than constantly slinging the bull!
Contrary to what some beleive, I am not out to "get Doug" or make Doug look bad.... the latter he did on his own!
Tom
your issues were addressed by Lado in somewhat of a timely manner , MONTHS ago ..... yet you continue to bash and flame here like no tomorrow , i don't understand it really .. you made your feelings towards Lado and his business practices well known , your complaints were satisfied , yet you act as if Doug STILL owes you money .. it's getting old !
Dan, I'm sure you are a sensible person deep inside but if people like yourself continue to make wild-donkey comments that are completely inaccurate, you have to expect me and others to comment, sometimes having to repeat themselves to get the facts across.... Really!
And again... to correct another one of your inaccurate comments, it has not been "MONTHS" since I received by $ from Doug... it was returned on November 9th, 2009, to be precise (merely weeks).
And YES... now that you mentioned it, he does still own me $$... like $5.86 to be exact (Paypal's profit)
(See.... YOU keep digging that hole deeper... don't blame me!)
Stop... stop... my stomach hurts....
Yes... for sure this discussion needs a little levity... (amoung other things... like an active moderator to control the renegades...)
Hey... I got a novel idea... why don't all you people that actually got their gear from Doug post some nice pics and even vids of their gear/project (I know a few already did... way back when in this thread...) Tell us your good/bad stories regarding them (how they operate, how the install was, etc...).... This would in fact help Doug (to some extent)... rather than constantly slinging the bull!
Contrary to what some beleive, I am not out to "get Doug" or make Doug look bad.... the latter he did on his own!
Tom
your issues were addressed by Lado in somewhat of a timely manner , MONTHS ago ..... yet you continue to bash and flame here like no tomorrow , i don't understand it really .. you made your feelings towards Lado and his business practices well known , your complaints were satisfied , yet you act as if Doug STILL owes you money .. it's getting old !
And again... to correct another one of your inaccurate comments, it has not been "MONTHS" since I received by $ from Doug... it was returned on November 9th, 2009, to be precise (merely weeks).
And YES... now that you mentioned it, he does still own me $$... like $5.86 to be exact (Paypal's profit)
(See.... YOU keep digging that hole deeper... don't blame me!)
ORIGINAL: Dick T.
News Flash from West Central Florida’s News Television!
November 18, 2009
A thunderous explosion rocked this small community early this evening. The home of Dan M, only name provided, was destroyed in great clap of thunder. Fire Marshals said the explosion was caused while Mr. Dan M was passing large amounts of cantankerous gas while at his computer, obviously directed at postings on an online site
A spark was generated during his uncontrolled blathering and rapid pounding on the keyboard setting off the surrounding gas cloud. While dashing from the house with hair ablaze, he tipped over his pi$$ bucket onto a beloved ring tailed cat.
During his escape, the cat became entangled in Mr. Dan M’s shovel sized feet causing a collision with the door jamb, dislocating his last remaining tooth. The ensuing stumble over the cat caused two somersaults across the lawn and onto a walkway where a white coated orderly ran over Mr. M’s fingers with his oatmeal cart.
At the hospital, the ER physician stated that his hair will grow back and splinting and bandaging the injuries was fairly simple. However prying Mr. M’s head out of his posterior was difficult, successful but did leave an osidious odor.
Mr. M’s friend, identified only as GaGeeBees from Georgia, arrived to take him home but security deemed him a threat due to similar incoherent ranting and gas expulsion. He was escorted out of the facility and last seen jabbering while pedaling a three wheel bicycle towards the park with a paper airplane twirling from his hat.
See video at 11:00
News Flash from West Central Florida’s News Television!
November 18, 2009
A thunderous explosion rocked this small community early this evening. The home of Dan M, only name provided, was destroyed in great clap of thunder. Fire Marshals said the explosion was caused while Mr. Dan M was passing large amounts of cantankerous gas while at his computer, obviously directed at postings on an online site
A spark was generated during his uncontrolled blathering and rapid pounding on the keyboard setting off the surrounding gas cloud. While dashing from the house with hair ablaze, he tipped over his pi$$ bucket onto a beloved ring tailed cat.
During his escape, the cat became entangled in Mr. Dan M’s shovel sized feet causing a collision with the door jamb, dislocating his last remaining tooth. The ensuing stumble over the cat caused two somersaults across the lawn and onto a walkway where a white coated orderly ran over Mr. M’s fingers with his oatmeal cart.
At the hospital, the ER physician stated that his hair will grow back and splinting and bandaging the injuries was fairly simple. However prying Mr. M’s head out of his posterior was difficult, successful but did leave an osidious odor.
Mr. M’s friend, identified only as GaGeeBees from Georgia, arrived to take him home but security deemed him a threat due to similar incoherent ranting and gas expulsion. He was escorted out of the facility and last seen jabbering while pedaling a three wheel bicycle towards the park with a paper airplane twirling from his hat.
See video at 11:00
11-20-2009, 12:12 AM
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ORIGINAL: TOMAPOWA
PRICELESS !!
Stop... stop... my stomach hurts....
Yes... for sure this discussion needs a little levity... (amoung other things... like an active moderator to control the renegades...)
Hey... I got a novel idea... why don't all you people that actually got their gear from Doug post some nice pics and even vids of their gear/project (I know a few already did... way back when in this thread...) Tell us your good/bad stories regarding them (how they operate, how the install was, etc...).... This would in fact help Doug (to some extent)... rather than constantly slinging the bull!
Contrary to what some beleive, I am not out to ''get Doug'' or make Doug look bad.... the latter he did on his own!
...snip...
Dan, I'm sure you are a sensible person deep inside but if people like yourself continue to make wild-donkey comments that are completely inaccurate, you have to expect me and others to comment, sometimes having to repeat themselves to get the facts across.... Really!
And again... to correct another one of your inaccurate comments, it has not been ''MONTHS'' since I received by $ from Doug... it was returned on November 9th, 2009, to be precise (merely weeks).
And YES... now that you mentioned it, he does still own me $$... like $5.86 to be exact (Paypal's profit)
(See.... YOU keep digging that hole deeper... don't blame me!)
PRICELESS !!
Stop... stop... my stomach hurts....
Yes... for sure this discussion needs a little levity... (amoung other things... like an active moderator to control the renegades...)
Hey... I got a novel idea... why don't all you people that actually got their gear from Doug post some nice pics and even vids of their gear/project (I know a few already did... way back when in this thread...) Tell us your good/bad stories regarding them (how they operate, how the install was, etc...).... This would in fact help Doug (to some extent)... rather than constantly slinging the bull!
Contrary to what some beleive, I am not out to ''get Doug'' or make Doug look bad.... the latter he did on his own!
...snip...
Dan, I'm sure you are a sensible person deep inside but if people like yourself continue to make wild-donkey comments that are completely inaccurate, you have to expect me and others to comment, sometimes having to repeat themselves to get the facts across.... Really!
And again... to correct another one of your inaccurate comments, it has not been ''MONTHS'' since I received by $ from Doug... it was returned on November 9th, 2009, to be precise (merely weeks).
And YES... now that you mentioned it, he does still own me $$... like $5.86 to be exact (Paypal's profit)
(See.... YOU keep digging that hole deeper... don't blame me!)
If you guys wold SHUT UP and let people vent THEN they would have no need to keep digging up more bad stuff in responce to your comments.
You dont calm down an angry people by telling them they have no reason to be angry or by calling them names or by denying their is any problem.
All that does is make them even angier!
So keep it up guys. Your hurting Doug more than he is himself.
By the way good suggestion TOMAPOWA. Lets see some normal posts for a change with some installs - or hear from someone who has talked to Doug or gotten product or an e-mail or something..........
11-20-2009, 12:31 AM
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RE: Lado retracts, do the really exist?
Okay, here is a short video of my Lado retracts working in my BH P-40. [link=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWj2UKEbYCc]LADO video[/link]
11-20-2009, 01:31 AM
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Larry, i just jumped into this forum. can you tell me if lado is still in business. Doug told me back in october that he would ship me a replacement gear one of mine went bad. anyhow no gear yet and no one answers the phone or my e-mail. him and Leanna both had the flu recently. are they back thanks
Larry, i just jumped into this forum. can you tell me if lado is still in business. Doug told me back in october that he would ship me a replacement gear one of mine went bad. anyhow no gear yet and no one answers the phone or my e-mail. him and Leanna both had the flu recently. are they back thanks
LADO-Tech hasn't returned my friend's phone calls or e-mails regarding the defective gear unit in over a month... is the owner Doug ok or has something befallen the guy? If he isn't able to run the company he really needs to find a buyer for it because there's great demand for this product obviously... idk.
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11-20-2009, 02:07 AM
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Maybe someone should call and ask for info on buying a set of gear. Those calls (and e-mails) always seem to go through and get answered just fine.
If Doug doesnt respond to a sales call.....
If Doug doesnt respond to a sales call.....
11-20-2009, 02:14 AM
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Bigtim - you obviously havent taken any LADO's apart.
The mechanical parts on the GZ's look to me like they function exactly the same way the LADO's do. The only difference is minor shape changes and you can see the moving worm drive cross piece on the GZ and its hiden/internal on the lado. The GZ's also look to be very robust. In some ways the open aspect of the GZ's is better. You can see when they need to be cleaned out where as the LADO's are closed up and you cant tell when they are full of grit - which cant fall out easily and clings to the grease on the inside.
I am particularly intrigued by the way they are doing some of the nose gear units and some of the less than ordinary mounting options that LADO doesnt offer.
They also come in 3 size ranges plus they have several nose gear options and mounting options and function exactly the same way as LADO's.
The service aspect could be an issue I agree but LADO doesnt win that fight. LADO doesnt seem to do repairs or service as far as I can see so a wait from Germany is better than nothing at all.
Bigtim - you obviously havent taken any LADO's apart.
The mechanical parts on the GZ's look to me like they function exactly the same way the LADO's do. The only difference is minor shape changes and you can see the moving worm drive cross piece on the GZ and its hiden/internal on the lado. The GZ's also look to be very robust. In some ways the open aspect of the GZ's is better. You can see when they need to be cleaned out where as the LADO's are closed up and you cant tell when they are full of grit - which cant fall out easily and clings to the grease on the inside.
I am particularly intrigued by the way they are doing some of the nose gear units and some of the less than ordinary mounting options that LADO doesnt offer.
They also come in 3 size ranges plus they have several nose gear options and mounting options and function exactly the same way as LADO's.
The service aspect could be an issue I agree but LADO doesnt win that fight. LADO doesnt seem to do repairs or service as far as I can see so a wait from Germany is better than nothing at all.
actually Larry I have taken them apart, to modify the side of the gear so my 7/16 struts would work in the retract mech.,I installed in my Hangar-9 P-51,I used the larger struts so I could use the larger Diamond Tread Robart wheels.
the area of the case where the larger strut retracts into, had a small lip that needed to be removed, I should have taken pics but I didn't feel it would be relevant until now.
I did this by carefully unscrewing the cases over a plate to catch any small parts that tend to drop out of tiny devices like these, glad I did because a couple of small parts did drop out, I left the motor and electronics in one side for reassembly.
I then cleaned out all the non conductive grease out of the case half using carb cleaner, having the case grease free is necessary to prevent the smallest metal flakes from getting trapped inside when I reassembled the gear,I did make a careful note of the quantity and position of the lube locations.
then I carefully removed the metal with a combo of a small dremmel grinding wheel and a cut off wheel to get into the small corner going very slow so not to dammage the case, after this was done I rinsed with more cleaner and re-greased the side,after flipping the sides I simply repeated the process,the amount of metal that needed to be removed was aprox 1/32" on each case for the clearance.
for the larger struts I went with the 3/16 wire connector.
since the rotators only come with 5/32 adapter holes I decided to use the smaller 3/8 struts, they fit my P-40 anyway, since I have a set for my Corsair I am planning on the 3/8struts for it as well.
having not had the chance to tear down the other gear I couldn't speak about there drive methods
the LADO gear have a gear drive system to actuate the retract cam in the standard Mustang type gear,similar to the internals of a standard Robart gear, the P-40 rotators are cam actuated with a trunnion that rotates using the drive motor, it looks like the German gear uses a servo to actuate the rotation of the gear,at least that what it looks like in there photos,adding to the complexity of the gear,not having seen them personally I couldn't comment directly just to the photos.
I am still waiting for Dicks review to come up on the boards.
since I am a real computer newb in the bigger scheme of things, I relayed to my wife( the real comp expert in our family) some of whats going on and some of the banter that's been transpiring, she informed me that posts from non relevant excrement disturbers were called trolls, which of course I found applicable to many of the postings as I chucle along while reading.
photos of my P-51 wing before finishing the wheel wells,the gear dropped right in but the plastic liner was way too small for the wheels I wanted to use so I built my own wells.
I also did the same to the P-40 wing, I haven't decided what to do with the F4U wing I will most likely make a somewhat scale looking wheel bay to strengthen the wing area at the retract location like a few others have done I am waiting for the H-9 F4U thread by v6goose to get to that point before I commit to my mods his thread is really full of some great information and mods on the plane .
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I see what your saying. I took the servos on the GZ gear to be steering servos rather than rotator servos, but your correct - need to get some hands on to be sure. I wish the GZ guys had posted some videos of their gear in operation.
By the way, I think the way Doug implemented the rotating action on his gear was pretty neat and simple.
By the way, I think the way Doug implemented the rotating action on his gear was pretty neat and simple.
11-20-2009, 02:48 AM
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it definitely is a ingenious way to get the gear to rotate, using gears machined into the cases, and how the trunnion meshes as the strut lifts up, if the trunnion was made of a stronger metal then it seems a larger connector wire could be used for the struts,or a strut ready version.
I have had some conversations about this with Doug, he indicated it would take some reworking of the gear before a larger connector could be used with the rotators, since he is having a hard time keeping the current shelves filled it looks as that version is a long way off.
I have had some conversations about this with Doug, he indicated it would take some reworking of the gear before a larger connector could be used with the rotators, since he is having a hard time keeping the current shelves filled it looks as that version is a long way off.
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Wow! Something must be wrong...... are we in the correct thread???
I think we just had a reasonable discussion and didnt call each other names or anything!
I think we just had a reasonable discussion and didnt call each other names or anything!
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ORIGINAL: TOMAPOWA
Hey... I got a novel idea... why don't all you people that actually got their gear from Doug post some nice pics and even vids of their gear/project (I know a few already did... way back when in this thread...) Tell us your good/bad stories regarding them (how they operate, how the install was, etc...).... This would in fact help Doug (to some extent)... rather than constantly slinging the bull!
Hey... I got a novel idea... why don't all you people that actually got their gear from Doug post some nice pics and even vids of their gear/project (I know a few already did... way back when in this thread...) Tell us your good/bad stories regarding them (how they operate, how the install was, etc...).... This would in fact help Doug (to some extent)... rather than constantly slinging the bull!
Ok, here's my thread that does that - good vid and pics too: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1086619
11-20-2009, 09:07 AM
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RE: Lado retracts, do the really exist?
I have a set of the Lado 60-2T retracts for my CMP Corsair. Bob Hayes has also used the lado's and here is a video of his installation and you can set how well the Lado's work on this plane. Bob waited 3 months for his Lado's and I waited 5 month's. [:'(] I am glad I have them becasue they are the best retracts I own. I did not like the 5 month's it took to get them[:'(] Here is ther video.
http://www.rcuvideos.com/video/Corsa...acts-completed
http://www.rcuvideos.com/video/Corsa...acts-completed
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Here's my video... Umm.... I was really tired and in a strange mood as I finished it up..... But it shows the Lados working well. I'm enjoying them.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bACdNz8MDFk[/youtube]
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bACdNz8MDFk[/youtube]
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11-20-2009, 04:24 PM
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RE: Lado retracts, do the really exist?
I guess I'll just chalk it up to a failed experiment. Have Lado 60-2 rotating retracts. Left one was damaged in an off runway landing from an engine failure. Not Lado's fault. The brass trunion is broken. I need this one part to fix the gear. Can't get anyone on the phone at Lado and no response to e-mails. I have a good right hand 60-2. Anyone want it? Does anyone have left hand Lado 60-2 they don't want. How about a trunion for the left gear. Is there a Lado salvage yard, since you can't get parts from the manufacturer?
Don't get me wrong, the gear was easy to install and worked great. They would be even better if they were Robo Strut ready. If I can't find the part or another left retract and Doug refuses to support his product, I guess I'll go back into the wing and modify the gear mounts to take some other gear, probably Century Jet.
Don't get me wrong, the gear was easy to install and worked great. They would be even better if they were Robo Strut ready. If I can't find the part or another left retract and Doug refuses to support his product, I guess I'll go back into the wing and modify the gear mounts to take some other gear, probably Century Jet.
11-20-2009, 04:58 PM
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RE: Lado retracts, do the really exist?
Probably get slammed for just posting my opinion! For those of you who are stuck waiting, I know how utterly frustrating this can be having had similar things happen to myself with a kit cutter. I hope someday you get your retracts. I guess for all of those of use who would like a retract like this, sitting back and hoping that Lado gets things back on track maybe the only thing we can do. However, I can't believe that someone on this side of the pond hasn't jumped in the market yet!
11-20-2009, 05:51 PM
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Someone on this side of the pond has..........................go here and see what is available.
http://www.thelikesline.com/
http://www.thelikesline.com/
11-20-2009, 05:56 PM
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RE: Lado retracts, do the really exist?
ORIGINAL: mimoore67
However, I can't believe that someone on this side of the pond hasn't jumped in the market yet!
However, I can't believe that someone on this side of the pond hasn't jumped in the market yet!
Out of curiosity.....there any patent numbers on these???
Maybe Doug wants to get out from under these and would think about selling his venture. Hmmmm
11-20-2009, 06:18 PM
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Someone on this side of the pond has..........................go here and see what is available.
http://www.thelikesline.com/
Someone on this side of the pond has..........................go here and see what is available.
http://www.thelikesline.com/
I am ready to wait for my Lado's, but because of this thread I felt I had to make a Paypal dispute(it would be 45 day's this weekend). I actually got mail from Doug yesterday. And he said that he would post in here within 24 hour's, telling what the situation was like now. I hope he does, and I hope I can close the dispute without raising it to a claim[sm=regular_smile.gif] I could also accept to wait 3-4 months, but then he should not have the full price from day one.
Nobody with a wide set (Topflite) for sale?
3/16 would be nice.