SEAPLANE RACING
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Thank you very much Seahawk and I assume some sort of simple anchor.
If you do have a close up picture in your garage that would be helpful too. Am trying to convince the fellows down at Lake Havsu to give it a try with simple sport planes and not the scale stuff that always scares people off.
If you do have a close up picture in your garage that would be helpful too. Am trying to convince the fellows down at Lake Havsu to give it a try with simple sport planes and not the scale stuff that always scares people off.
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RE: SEAPLANE RACING
Hello!
Interesting thread!
I think a 40 sized scale only competition would catch on - cheaper than a 60 sized, and more accesable to newer builders.
Either way, I think I'm going to throw together a few electric Supermarine S4's and the like to fly on the water (my back yard, can't believe I haven't tried it yet!)
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Graeme
Interesting thread!
I think a 40 sized scale only competition would catch on - cheaper than a 60 sized, and more accesable to newer builders.
Either way, I think I'm going to throw together a few electric Supermarine S4's and the like to fly on the water (my back yard, can't believe I haven't tried it yet!)
Thank you,
Graeme
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RE: SEAPLANE RACING
Pseudo-Schneider Cup Race Rules
This race is a low pressure entry level seaplane race for beginner racers and low time modellers. It has a low
build demand, and the rules are not as highly enforced to keep it fun for everyone! Anyone can enter, and
lost models do not cost an arm and a leg. This can be used as a low level compitition to stir up interest in
radio control seaplane racing, and it's incredible history, as well as a way to lead to higher class competitions,
that could become similar to Club 20 and Quickie 500 races, and large scale pylon racing.
As much as I like the prospect of Seaplane pylon racing, the fact that many pilots are turned off by both the
difficulty in flying of water, as well as racing means that the only way to get a popular 60 sized class started
would be to start small.
This is what I came up with for rules in about 20 minutes, so there probably are errors. Feel free to comment
and change what I've got below!
1) All models scaled around the standard GWS float kit. (dirt cheap)
2) Floats can be modified to fit the correct scale profile, length can be changed by 5 inches, front or back.
3) Float struts are left to the builder, stock or scratch.
4) Fuselage must be scaled to GWS floats, this way all models are close in scale (sort of...)
5) Any method of construction can be used for airframe, emphesis being put on foam, to increase the potential number
of fliers. Foam can be sheeted, covered, painted, and detailed in any means. (Must be cheap!)
6) Models must use a pre-determined power system. (I have not thought of one yet) This includes ESC, Motor, and battery.
If anyone can come up with a cheap power system that provides enough power, please write below!
7) All servos must be micro sized, any brand.
8) All models must weigh a minum of 20 ounces.
9) Wingspan maximum of 60 inches, minimum 25 inches. (pretty lax...)
10) Any full range aircraft radio permitted, 2.4 Ghz prefered to permit all models to fly against each other.
11) Any model based on an aircraft entered in the Schnieder Cup is permitted, including those that crashed in
trials. Planned aircraft that never flew are not permitted.
Flight Rules
Each heat:
4 pilots (spotters are permitted)
10 laps
Recovery boat or other plane-retreival method would be helpfull.
1) Pilots stand on shore, perpendicular to direction to take off run.
2) Flights taken off into the wind, away from land.
3) Minor corrections in takeoff direction can be made depending on wind. Course remains the same, possibly costing the pilots time. This is up to the pilot.
4) If wind is heading from shore to water (tailwind takeoff), heat is postphoned.
5) Two pylons in the course. They located to the right and left of the circuit, pilots in the middle. This is similar to a normal club flightline to keep it easier for pilots.
6) Takeoffs are made just outside either of the pylons, depending on conditions. The first turn is made just after, to enter the race circuit.
7) Pylon construction and distance can be made per location.
8) Each pilot flies the circuit in the fastest time possible, and must complete all laps or will be disqualified.
9) If a pylon is hit, the pilot is out (race continues, plane retrieved later.)
10) There is no maximum or minimum time as a barrier.
11) A safe landing must be made after passing (not turning around) pylon. If model is crashed (including flipping it over), 20 seconds are added to the time.
12) A timer is located at the pylon allocated as the finish line, and times each racer.
13) Pilots are not allowed to physically harm fellow competitors!
Winners of each heat comptete against other heats winners in final race. If only one heat is raced, the fastest
pilot is determined the winner.
Winner gets a box of doughnuts.
Thank you,
Graeme
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RE: SEAPLANE RACING
Hello GraemeEllis,
Thought I would let you know that the Riverside RC model club started sponsoring an event called the Schneider Cup Re-Enactment in 1995 at Lake Perris, California, The event was limited to Schneider Cup look-a-likes, giant scale (1/4 scale) models. The event lasted for several years before dying out due to lack of participants. The attachments of the models I build for the event. Hope you like.
Thought I would let you know that the Riverside RC model club started sponsoring an event called the Schneider Cup Re-Enactment in 1995 at Lake Perris, California, The event was limited to Schneider Cup look-a-likes, giant scale (1/4 scale) models. The event lasted for several years before dying out due to lack of participants. The attachments of the models I build for the event. Hope you like.
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RE: SEAPLANE RACING
Thats great!
The Macchi has been one of my "must build" aircraft for years - well done!
I am going to start some smaller electric models this week - the Supermarine S.5 and Macchi M.39, based around the above mentioned GWS floats.
I am going for a sheeted foam wing and fuselage, and sheet tail surfaces.
Thanks for the pictures!
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RE: SEAPLANE RACING
VIDEO from Water Pylon Racing *NESSEBAR SEAPLANES MODEL CUP 2009*- Bulgaria, Europe
http://rc-bulgaria.com/index.php?topic=763.0
http://rc-bulgaria.com/index.php?topic=763.0
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Schneider Cup Races
Several years ago,circa 1995-2001, there was the Schneider Cup reenactment at Lake Perris and Lake Elsinore, here in Southern Calif. It was for quarter scale models of the Schneider Cup racers that raced in the English Channel in the the early twenties. Finally died for lack of participation. Too bad, because it was a lot of fun.
(Trivia, the Italian Macchi set a record of 0ver 430 mph in 1930, that still stands for a prop seaplane).
HughO
(Trivia, the Italian Macchi set a record of 0ver 430 mph in 1930, that still stands for a prop seaplane).
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1989 Schneider Cup Reenactment 30 Year Reunion
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We recently had a member of our club pass and he had over a 100 plan sets. Many were of commercially made models but some were of obscure design. I ended up tossing many of the plans and there was a few sets in tubes. One tube was marked PT19 and I was just about to toss it in the recycling when something told me to look inside. When I opened it up it was a full set of plans for the 1/4 scale Schneider Cup Supermarine racer. Looks like I might have something new to build!