a DUTCH 158" B-17, 122" P-61, 136" Short Sunderland
02-14-2006, 04:40 PM
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a DUTCH 158" B-17, 122" P-61, 136" Short Sunderland
Hi Guys,
Ever seen a large dutch B-17 Flying Fortress (Nine o Nine), or P-61 (Lady in the Dark), or Short Sunderland flying boat? All three real winners in the european Scale contest scene!
Specifications:
B-17:
Scratch build from own plan, scale 1:8.
Span: 158". Weight: only 44 Lbs!. Engines: only 4x Laser 0.70, four stroke! prop 13x6 at 9000 RPM. (not overpowered like most B-17 models, absolutely not underpowered, real scale flying).
Retracts: electric, own construction.
Radio: 2 receivers, 14 servos, 6 batteries (4x1,7 Nicd for receivers, 1x 1,7 Nicd for retracts, 1x 1,7 Nicd for landing-lights+ rotable upperturret.).
Extra functions: Landing-lights, rotable upperturret, bomb well-doors, bombdropping (or sweeties for children), parachutedropping.
4x European Star Cup Champion Scale, and winner of over 30 international scale contests all over Europe.
P-61:
Scratch build from own plan, scale 1:6,6.
Span: 122". Weight: 41 Lbs (larger than the Don Smith and Zirolli P-61, but lighter!)
Engines: 2x Laser 2.40 V-twin, four stroke, prop 19x10 at 7800 RPM. Nice wide loops and other aerobatics.
Retracts: electric, own construction (some legparts are bought).
Radio: 2 receivers, 27 servos!! 6 batteries (4x 1,7 Nimh for receivers, 1x 1,7 Nimh for retracts, 1x 0,7 Nimh for landinglights.
Working spoillerons combined with the tiny aillerons.
Extra functions: closed main welldoors, when gear is down (as it should be for a P-61B type!), retractable landinglights, nosewheel-light, dropping bombs and droptanks.
2x European Star Cup Champion Scale, and winner of 10 international scale contests all over Europe.
Short Sunderland:
Scratch build from own plan, scale 1:10.
span: 136". Weight: 41 Lbs.
Engines: 4x Osmax SF 0.45, two stroke.
Radio: 2 receivers, 13 servos, 5 batteries (4x 1,7 Nicd for receivers, 1x 1,7 Nicd for landinglights).
Working Fowler flaps (3,5"backwards at 60 degrees down).
Extra Functions: Landing-lights, dropping torpedos.
Runner-up European Star Cup Champion's Scale. Winner of international Scale contests, on water too!
Have a look at my homepage: www.home.versatel.nl/jan.hermkens/
Jan Hermkens.
Ever seen a large dutch B-17 Flying Fortress (Nine o Nine), or P-61 (Lady in the Dark), or Short Sunderland flying boat? All three real winners in the european Scale contest scene!
Specifications:
B-17:
Scratch build from own plan, scale 1:8.
Span: 158". Weight: only 44 Lbs!. Engines: only 4x Laser 0.70, four stroke! prop 13x6 at 9000 RPM. (not overpowered like most B-17 models, absolutely not underpowered, real scale flying).
Retracts: electric, own construction.
Radio: 2 receivers, 14 servos, 6 batteries (4x1,7 Nicd for receivers, 1x 1,7 Nicd for retracts, 1x 1,7 Nicd for landing-lights+ rotable upperturret.).
Extra functions: Landing-lights, rotable upperturret, bomb well-doors, bombdropping (or sweeties for children), parachutedropping.
4x European Star Cup Champion Scale, and winner of over 30 international scale contests all over Europe.
P-61:
Scratch build from own plan, scale 1:6,6.
Span: 122". Weight: 41 Lbs (larger than the Don Smith and Zirolli P-61, but lighter!)
Engines: 2x Laser 2.40 V-twin, four stroke, prop 19x10 at 7800 RPM. Nice wide loops and other aerobatics.
Retracts: electric, own construction (some legparts are bought).
Radio: 2 receivers, 27 servos!! 6 batteries (4x 1,7 Nimh for receivers, 1x 1,7 Nimh for retracts, 1x 0,7 Nimh for landinglights.
Working spoillerons combined with the tiny aillerons.
Extra functions: closed main welldoors, when gear is down (as it should be for a P-61B type!), retractable landinglights, nosewheel-light, dropping bombs and droptanks.
2x European Star Cup Champion Scale, and winner of 10 international scale contests all over Europe.
Short Sunderland:
Scratch build from own plan, scale 1:10.
span: 136". Weight: 41 Lbs.
Engines: 4x Osmax SF 0.45, two stroke.
Radio: 2 receivers, 13 servos, 5 batteries (4x 1,7 Nicd for receivers, 1x 1,7 Nicd for landinglights).
Working Fowler flaps (3,5"backwards at 60 degrees down).
Extra Functions: Landing-lights, dropping torpedos.
Runner-up European Star Cup Champion's Scale. Winner of international Scale contests, on water too!
Have a look at my homepage: www.home.versatel.nl/jan.hermkens/
Jan Hermkens.
02-14-2006, 05:15 PM
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RE: Dutch Jan Hermkens large B-17, P-61, Short Sunderland
Jan you certainly have some beautiful aircraft in your collection. The B-17 and the P-61 would certainly feel at home if they were flying at the Bomber Field fly in held at Monaville Texas each September.
It is always a sight to see 4 to 6 of this size B-17 flying a loose formation in the afternoon sky.
Your P-61 is a model that I have had a fascination with since I saw the first one flying at a control line contest in 1955. It was only about 60" in span and flying on control lines but it did have retracts and an operating top turret. It was impressive for its time.
It is always a sight to see 4 to 6 of this size B-17 flying a loose formation in the afternoon sky.
Your P-61 is a model that I have had a fascination with since I saw the first one flying at a control line contest in 1955. It was only about 60" in span and flying on control lines but it did have retracts and an operating top turret. It was impressive for its time.
02-16-2006, 01:03 PM
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RE: Dutch 158" B-17, 122" P-61, 136" Short Sunderland
Hi Gremlin,
thank you for you kind words, but bomberfield, Monaville Texas USA, is to far away from the Netherlands! (and much to expensive!!)
Jan.
thank you for you kind words, but bomberfield, Monaville Texas USA, is to far away from the Netherlands! (and much to expensive!!)
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02-16-2006, 02:34 PM
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RE: Dutch 158" B-17, 122" P-61, 136" Short Sunderland
Jan I certainly understand the distance and expense situation.
These aircraft are much too nice to be overlooked when this thread is displaced by newer ones. Why not post them in your gallery section under your profile? That way, anyone familiar with you or curious about your background can access these photos with a couple of mouse clicks.
Your aircraft would certainly stand out here in the Texas skies.
These aircraft are much too nice to be overlooked when this thread is displaced by newer ones. Why not post them in your gallery section under your profile? That way, anyone familiar with you or curious about your background can access these photos with a couple of mouse clicks.
Your aircraft would certainly stand out here in the Texas skies.
02-16-2006, 03:22 PM
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RE: Dutch 158" B-17, 122" P-61, 136" Short Sunderland
hi Gremlin,
I am pretty new with computers and forums! (since 6 weeks now, by the way, my son made the homepage: a last Christmas gift!)
I Prefered to build and fly scale models instead of talking or dreaming about them (the englisch modellers could have the right definition for these ones: "Armchair Pilots" !).
So I have to figure out how to get these photos into the gallery. I will try it! How many photos are allowed?
cheers.
Jan.
I am pretty new with computers and forums! (since 6 weeks now, by the way, my son made the homepage: a last Christmas gift!)
I Prefered to build and fly scale models instead of talking or dreaming about them (the englisch modellers could have the right definition for these ones: "Armchair Pilots" !).
So I have to figure out how to get these photos into the gallery. I will try it! How many photos are allowed?
cheers.
Jan.
02-16-2006, 03:29 PM
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RE: Dutch 158" B-17, 122" P-61, 136" Short Sunderland
Jan:
At the top of the page you'll see "My Account, My Models..." Click on "My Models" and then scroll to the bottom of the page and click on "My Hangar." Follow the instructions. Simple.
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At the top of the page you'll see "My Account, My Models..." Click on "My Models" and then scroll to the bottom of the page and click on "My Hangar." Follow the instructions. Simple.
HTH.
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02-18-2006, 08:13 AM
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RE: Dutch 158" B-17, 122" P-61, 136" Short Sunderland
Hi Guys,
more remarks please, give your critical opinions about my three models! I have seen none .
I still want to improve myself and want to learn from others.
kind regards,
Jan
more remarks please, give your critical opinions about my three models! I have seen none .
I still want to improve myself and want to learn from others.
kind regards,
Jan
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RE: A 158"B-17, 122"P-61, 136"Short S(more remarks please!)
Jan:
People are struck dumb when they see your planes. My impression is that any complaints would have to be based on a close inspection and nit-picking criticism.
Beautiful planes.
Bill.
People are struck dumb when they see your planes. My impression is that any complaints would have to be based on a close inspection and nit-picking criticism.
Beautiful planes.
Bill.
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RE: a DUTCH 158" B-17, 122" P-61, 136" Short Sunderland
Hi Guys,
here some more pictures of my 158" B-17 and 122" P-61, both scratch build from own plan.
The B-17 is under maintenance now, after 12 years into action it was necessary and she deserved it!
The P-61 is still fine, but the Short Sunderland is after 15 years passable damaged, this after a dead stick outerlanding (technical problems). Probable I will not repair the model anymore, she is worn!
cheers,
Jan.
here some more pictures of my 158" B-17 and 122" P-61, both scratch build from own plan.
The B-17 is under maintenance now, after 12 years into action it was necessary and she deserved it!
The P-61 is still fine, but the Short Sunderland is after 15 years passable damaged, this after a dead stick outerlanding (technical problems). Probable I will not repair the model anymore, she is worn!
cheers,
Jan.
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hi Guys,
Im searching for Laser 70 engine. the old type with the Super tigre carburator.
This as replacement for one of the engines of my 4 meter B-17.
Kind regards,
Jan Hermkens
Netherlands
Im searching for Laser 70 engine. the old type with the Super tigre carburator.
This as replacement for one of the engines of my 4 meter B-17.
Kind regards,
Jan Hermkens
Netherlands
