jaejw1

where in cali are you...

eamedia

hey im near sacramento... i forgot, i use 60wt in the shocks and the servo saver is from rc18t which i made a little stiffer. if any of you are near sacramento we can race on wednesday evenings at the track... we just need 4 entries to race. heres a pic of my car

junebug48

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[8D]hi budie's . very nice looking vendetta eamedia . thank's all .

jaejw1

all dettas are unique just like snow flakes..

junebug48

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[8D]hi budie's . i agree with jaejw1 they are all diff. and that's why i like to see other people's car's and truck's . thank's all .

junebug48

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[8D]hi budie's . eamedia what motor is that and is it replaceable brushes ? what motor is made for the vendetta size can's that has replaceable brushes ? please lmk . thank's guy's .

XTMer

eamedia

its a duratrax vr3 with a mini quake heat sink. i took the label off the can and also drilled holes in the heat sink so it dosent block the holes on the motor.... the vendetta has a 380 size stock motor, it does not have replaceable brushes and i have not found a 380 size motor with replaceable brushes

eamedia

atomic makes a 380 motor, but i bought it and its smaller that the vr3 so i never even tried it out, its like the size of mini mod motors for mini-t's. also the atomic one has a 2mm shaft size, the vr3 is 2.3mm i think

once i can get someone to video for me ill have some track footage

fugadude

wow those are cool as helll.

FlyinGN

here ya go..

http://www.rcmart.com/catalog/produc...62f234f19ceb3d

junebug48

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[8D]hi budie's . FlyinGN thank's for the link . the motor sound's good bearing's and brushes and high tork sound's good to me lol . eamedia why did you not try that motor ? thank's all .

darindotson

Hey all- quick update on the brushless motor replacement. Jaejw replaced his GH 4700 Air Power brushless for the Multiplex Permax 400/4D motor, and raved aboout it's performance. Well, I just replaced my Air Power with the same motor last night. I knew I was in for a treat when I got the Permax box and the instructions were written in German! Also, the shaft is very difficult to spin due to the neodymium magnets. It is not a free-spinning motor like the GH4700 or the Mambas.

Anyway.... After soldering on the bullet connectors and installing it with the 19T pinion, all I can say is.... OMG!!!! This thing is flat out sick! Tons, and I mean tons, of low throttle torque!! One thing that threw me off at first- it is not a free roller, so the grinding sound I was getting when I tried to roll the car made me think that I did not have good gear mesh- so I spent an hour trying different motor/pinion placements. Turns out that the motor is just really hard to turn when off-power!! Once it gets the juice, it's as smooth as butter. Jaejw- did you notice this as well??

I can't wait to get this on the track. I am running 2S Lipo, and I was literally shredding my front yard with this battery. I can't wait to see what happens when I throw in my 3S Lipo....

Anyway, Jaejw, thanks for the continuing excellent documentation you've been posting on the Vendetta experience, and for all your suggestions on setup!

This thing rocks!

Darin

IamDisaster

That thing can draw 35amps!!! Are you using a Quark?

By the way, I thought all Mambas had permanent 2 pole Neo magnets.

When you compare it to a GH you are comparing a 5,200kv 35amp motor to a 4,700kv 25amp. It better be faster!

darindotson

Yes, Quark 33 Pro Car.

Yes, Mamba is 2 pole Neo. The Permax is a 4 turn hand wound, and the rotational resistance is just incredible without the juice.

And yes, it should be faster on the top end (5200 vs 4700), but it's the low end that's special. It is also twice the price of an Air Power 4700.

Thanks!

Darin

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FlyinGN Did you read this? I don't know what to think of it. What size shaft does this motor have?
http://www.rcmart.com/catalog/produc...62f234f19ceb3d
Ron
EDIT: I just noticed it says "comm Size" 4.2MM. Is that the shaft size???

jaejw1

DARINDOTSON.. did you notice the motor temp..

IamDisaster

Expensive...but not if you compare it to what brushless used to cost just a few years ago....especially for the larger scale cars. I recall people putting $1000 dollars into their brushless systems! It amazes me that you can now pick up low end brushless systems for $70 bucks that will overpower a 1/18th car. The 4WD trucks really benefit from a larger motor. The least expensive larger canned engine I've seen is a 30 amp $40 3800kV UltraFly (if I recall.) Sounds like you got yourself a winner there.

jaejw1

man i wish i had a video of mine running down the straight.. up close the treads hitting the ground sounds like a bigger vehicle,, and the vibrations on the dirt .. makes me all giddy inside..lol.

going to put this motor in my truggy and see what it does.. i hope i break something..

darindotson

Yes- after a full Lipo pack, running it pretty hard, the can temperature was 100 F with 19/45 gearing. The thing acted like it was barely breaking a sweat at all... this is one sweet motor, and I was very impressed with the Air Power too (still am)- but it's on a whole different level.

darindotson

Yes, I'm also amazed at how affordable it's getting now. I think the reason more people don't know about this motor is because it was designed specifically for brushless airplanes- as was the GH 4700.

Thanks!

Darin

FlyinGN

Yea as far as I know its a direct fit.. In fact someone here has one and is gonna do a review of it in his detta..

GravityJunkie

Need vids. Need vids. Need vids. Please, please, please. Come on jae and Darin, quit teasing us and give us some vids on the track with the rippin' motor!!!

FlyinGN

Yea as far as I know its a direct fit.. In fact someone here has one and is gonna do a review of it in his detta..

t9dragon

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All you had to do was go back a page for the videos that jaejw1 posted.

http://www.rcuvideos.com/view_video....08a8e098112185

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...08690931469823