b35853

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I'm looking for plans to build
.049 park flyer. I got a draw full
of .049 stuff, thought I would get
back flying .049. I'm looking for plans
in GIF PCX or some other format that will
work in a Paint Shop type program.
I would like all wing surfaces to be
built up. Don't have any experience with
foam. 2 channel and standard servos
don't want to go buy micro stuff.
I have a few hundred plans in DXF to trade
in return. Have everything from vintage to jets.

Lynn S

Take a look at this site for plans you can download:

http://my.pclink.com/~dfritzke/


The Ken Willard designed "Scorcher" is a very good plan for a .049 It was designed for Rudder Only but will make a great two channel plane. This plane looks very much like the Top Dawg which was a great 1/2 A plane in the late 60s. It has lots of wing area and will carry the large servos.
This plans prints in 8 pages that can be taped together.

Also check out the Littlest Stick which can be enlarged 150% on a copy machine for .049 power.The large version makes a great .049 fun flyer and will carry two full size servos at the large size. Just remember to take out the incidence in the wing (upward tilt) because you don't need it with elevator.

There is also the Half-A Stick plan that can be ordered from RCM (plan # 607B) it uses a Ace foam wing.

combatpigg

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I think you need something BIG and LIGHT like an OLD TIMER. You could even do a bootleg LAZY BEE, overly propped, and built as light as humanly possible. There are guys who advertise in the model magazines old time free flight models. These planes look great with transparent covering and a slow turning COX in the nose. This is what you need for slow, floater type performance.

BMatthews

I agree. Old Timer models make GREAT parkflyers. And they aren't just stodgy slow thermal models either. Both the 1/2A Texaco models that I've made are super easy to fly with a big prop loading the engine down but if you put a 6x3 on them and run 'em on 25% nitro they are hotrods. The aerobatics they can do with rudder and elevator run the gamut of loops, barrel rolls, and immelmans of all sorts. If you're good and run an external clunk tank you can even balance them upside down.

Forget that it's a rudder and just treat it like an aileron control for stunting. Sure the dihedral makes it a bit of a balancing act when upside down but that can be part of the fun.

If you go this route I just hope that you don't mind some stick work. Balsa sticks I mean.... LOTS of balsa sticks that all need to be glued together like a big Guillow's kit.

Or you could take a simple Old Timer and make it using sheet for the fuselage and built up for the rest.

Either way you get a model that flies some simple stunts and who's size automatically makes it a bit slower and as you get close to the engine running dry you claw for the clouds and after the engine quits go thermal shopping.

Or, if I may be so bold, you could build this from my plans....

mclintock

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That plane looks sorta like hobby-lobby's mini telemaster.
Which is an electric kit, but slapping a cox on instead of the firewall mounted nippy motor looks easy.
It's looks like alot of kit for the 30 dollars it costs- laser cut even.
Has anyone cox-a-fied a mini telemaster yet?
[link=http://www.hobby-lobby.com/telemaster-mini.htm]mini telemaster[/link]

DICKEYBIRD

GREAT find mclintock! The mini-telemaster appears to be a bargain and should be a great flyer with just about any decent 1/2A engine. Somebody oughta get one, convert it to glow power and do a review for the forum.

boberos

At a wing span of 45 " & wing area of 325 sq. inches, it seems a little big for an .049 engine to me. But it looks nice & is priced right.
Bob G

DICKEYBIRD

You may be right Bob but the battery they show (7-cell 1100 mah NiMH) weighs 5.3 oz.! The Nippy 1208 motor weighs 2.1 oz. (about the same as a Norvel or a Tee Dee) If the advertised all-up weight (20 oz.) is correct, surely an .049 powered version should come in at about 18 oz. and would perform very well. Probably not a good windy day flyer though.

My 1/2A stuff keeps getting bigger and bigger and as long as I keep the weight down, they do very well.

mclintock

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Compare the mini tele to the Herr Cloud Ranger.. Quite close looking except in price..
Not to say anything bad about Herr tho-
my favorite plane kits so far.

Speaking of herr, they now make some 'breezy day park flyer' kits, built up for 280 electric.. about 36" spans..
Perhaps pee-wee power instead of the 280?

combatpigg

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I saw a MINI TELEMASTER the other day at the field, and it had a 380 motor with gear reduction. It was able to putt around OK, but it didn't make enough noise to satisfy me. The plane would be a natural for an 049 and would be awesome with a throttled 061.

b35853

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Thanks for every one's input. I've came up
with some new ideas after downloading
Bipe Fyler's tileprint program. Like I said
in my orginal post, I have a few hundred
sets of plans. Most are DXF and I don't
have a plotter. I have a lot of vintage
plans in GIF & BMP, started using the
tileprint and it actually works. Printed up
a couple of things and taped the plans together.
I've bought kits that the plans were not as good as the
ones I'm printing on my printer. If any of you
hadn't tried the tileprint, I would suggest you
give it a try. Bob G. thanks for you in put, I
need a little more info on wing surface area
and total take off weight.

BMatthews

I'm the moderator so I get first dibs on this one...



PS: I typed the snarky joke reply and then went to look at the site. THIS MINI TELEMASTER WOULD MAKE A PERFECT TRAINER! ! !

325 sq inches, 45 inch span and with the engine to replace the motor and loosing the 5 oz battery pack I don't see why it shouldn't come out to 16 to 17 oz RTF. Certainly it would be less than 20 oz. The size and wing area would work to ensure the flying speed isn't too high and from what they say it's a simple build. And all that for $30. That's a deal.

N1EDM

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I've got a question on the mini-Telemaster.

How do you think that thing would fly on a Norvel .074?

Just curious...... I have an .074 hanging around and three S-148 servos... no mini stuff..

What do you guys think?

Bob

Lynn S

It should do fine, you could throttle back,head into the wind and probably fly backwards. I have seen the full size Telemaster do just that with .60 on it.

BMatthews

If it tends to not want to land at idle use a heavy rounded prop nut or a heavy steel washer behind the prop for a little more flywheel effect so you can lower the idle reliably. But yeah, I think it'll do fine as well. And it'll probably 3D hover at full throttle...