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Old 12-07-2004, 10:43 PM
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Hey guys,

I was ordering mine tonight and noticed it went down to 109.99, so it is even a better deal- check it out! Dale
Old 12-07-2004, 11:00 PM
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Wow--almost makes me want to get another just because it's so cheap!

I'm using 2/3AAA NimH 350mah CBP packs from cheapbatterypacks.com. I almost wish I had gotten slightly bigger packs since I had to end up adding weight to the nose to balance it, and that would just be extra capacity. That's something to consider guys---if you're not using landing gear, you will probably have to add weight to the nose to balance the plane, so you may just try a bigger battery.

Johnny C, I didn't get a throttle servo in my kit. And I haven't had any problems with my motor mount.

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Old 12-07-2004, 11:15 PM
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It took me about 1 hour to build the DF unit. Not much to it.
The drill fixture worked perfectly. I used a 5/64" drill bit for
the pilot holes. I was concerned with drilling that size hole
in the fuel tank tabs, but it seems OK. The whole unit seems
pretty solid.

It is an .061. No holes for the .074 muffler, as noted by pt.
Speaking of which, the motor mount arms are not adjustable.
The structural part of the DF, is molded in one piece. This
includes the front ring, the centering vanes & the motor mount.
There must be a different front ring for the larger engine.

I used the starter on the DF, & boy does it scream! I can't wait
to hear it run! But, just like always, I seem to always screw
something up... I let the starter get out of alignment & it chewed
half moon cuts in 5 of the six starter vanes. I guess I'll try grinding
a similar cut in the last vane. So much for being balanced!

I took few pictures, but in the interest of download time, here's
one. Let me know if anyone wants more.

I did also cut the upper fuse. I used a new exacto blade & angled
the knife back to give a little more engagement than just the tabs
on the lower sides.

I think I'm going to try the balloons for protection of the servo.
Maybe a finger form a rubber glove. Also it shows the throttle
push rod bent in a large radius. I have no idea why this would
be required. I made mine straight.

Have you guys rec'd the 2005 Tower catalog yet? I thought
I would have gotten mine with my Mig order.

$109 SUX!!!! I thought I was getting a deal at $130!

Spencer, what battery pack would you recommend then?
We'll be hand launching with no gear.

Later!

Johnny C!
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Old 12-07-2004, 11:22 PM
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OK, I caved in and just ordered one for $109. Also for Tower Hobbies club members don't forget there's a current coupon for a free S3004 BB servo with any order over $100.

Duke
Old 12-07-2004, 11:25 PM
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Uhhh.... Glad I didn't order one this morning! [X(]

If you check the front page on tower it gives you an ad number to save $10 on purchases over $100(US)
Old 12-08-2004, 01:00 AM
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Don't feel bad Johnny. I also chewed up those starter vanes and mine are also half moons. But I filed them down a bit and now they are very clean half-moons, and all the same size, so it's balanced fine.

Putting together the fan unit was the hardest part for me (or it took the longest anyway). I didn't realize I didn't have enough servos when I started the build because I thought the kit came with a throttle servo. Bought a servo and it didn't fit the screw mounts (servo too small), so I had to screw one side in and run a peice of wire through the other screw hole on the servo and tie it down around the fuel tank. It's pretty secure, but I had a heck of a time trying to come up with a way to mount it.

I bent the throttle wire as shown in the manual...just because that's how it was shown. Most of the time when I deviate from the instructions, I screw something up. I guess the bend is to allow a little give if the servo is pulling too far either way. A straight wire would strain it. I haven't thought about covering up the servo, but I guess it needs it! It gets pretty slimed!

I envy you guys who are getting this thing for 100 bucks. I remember when they first came out they were over $300! And get this---Kamdax is developing an F-16. If it's anything like the Mirage or the Mig, you will be able to just unscrew the fan unit from the plastic mount in the Mig and interchange it as needed. You'll only need to buy the foam parts for the 16. That's a lot cheaper than buying a $300 kit.

Batteries:
http://www.unipros.com/cbpsite/custo...sion_id=224391
Make your own pack. Cheap and fast. Like I said, I got the CBP 2/3AAA. Now that I've thought about it more, I'm not sure getting a pack any larger is such a good idea because the canopy is so far back that it wouldn't make that much difference in balancing. It may be better just to get the 2/3AAA and then add weight as far forward a possible. I epoxied some lead right into the foam on the nose of mine, and it is covered by the plastic nose ring. Besides, I kept the weight down by not using the wingtip plastic and using the smallest possible electronics.

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Old 12-08-2004, 01:13 AM
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You guys overshop things, just like me. After y'all saying you didn't get a throttle servo I went back and looked. Only the .080 upgrade comes with the throttle servo. Glad I have some spares. Didn't see that until after I ordered one.[>:] But at 110 bucks I won't be calling to complain!
Old 12-08-2004, 02:37 AM
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I put one in my shopping cart last night. I'm sure glad I didn't "Proceed to checkout"! Now I'm afraid it'll drop more if I buy now, but if I wait too long they'll be out.
Old 12-08-2004, 03:57 AM
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Well, I broke down and ordered one.
Old 12-08-2004, 10:24 AM
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The real question is how do I order another one without the wife noticing.....

After the Mig wears out, can you say 1/2a Lear?

Duke
Old 12-08-2004, 11:23 AM
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Dukester, I used the billmelater option. When the bill comes in I'll have to be there to get the mail first...
You'll need two for a lear, right? That'll be a little more difficult.

How are you guys covering the servo with a balloon? Leave the horn off and make a slit for the gear to stick through?
Old 12-08-2004, 11:56 AM
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On the throttle servo, I was thinking why not just use a small length of the sullivan flex cable. You could shroud the servo and route the cable out a hole in the shroud.

Duke
Old 12-08-2004, 01:30 PM
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pt, that's what I was thinking. Maybe even slit the rubber for the servo arm, but not pull
it back to the pivot/rotator thing. Just pull it over the servo arm far enough for the push
rod to attach, or.... thinking it through further.... maybe if the servo can handle the extra
load, just cover the servo, arm & all & just push the "z" in the rod through the rubber.

I'll work on this tonight, & let you know what I find.

Dukster, I misread your post the first time. The balloon cover is the shroud idea boiled
down, about as far as I think it could go. In misreading your comment... how about
moving the servo outboard, but one would have to figure out where to put it....
maybe between the rec'r & elevator servo?

Hmmmm, think on this, I will....

I think I'll try the balloon idea first...

Johnny C!
Old 12-08-2004, 02:35 PM
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ORIGINAL: ptulmer

You guys overshop things, just like me. After y'all saying you didn't get a throttle servo I went back and looked. Only the .080 upgrade comes with the throttle servo. Glad I have some spares. Didn't see that until after I ordered one.[>:] But at 110 bucks I won't be calling to complain!
Holy cow! I thought the same and called tower and the sent me out a tower mini, Hmmm... gotta love tower!chuck
Old 12-09-2004, 10:06 AM
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Hey gang,
I used the thumb out of a latex glove. I poured some 35% fuel on a sample,
but forgot to check it last night. I covered the servo without the arm & mounting rivets.
I pushed the rivets through the latex, in an effort to seal around the screws. I slit the
area where the control arm goes through. A tie wrap closed it off around the servo lead.

For you guys already flying the Mig... Did you screw the DF unit to the wing inserts before
epoxying it in? It seems the logical thing to do. This lead to the question, can you get the
DF unit out after attaching the top rear fuse. Also, why couldn't I move the DF forward or
back (3 sets of mount holes) to help adjust the CG location? Also, concerned about excess
weight, did you or would you recommend fuel proofing inside the fuse with thinned epoxy?
Could add strength....

Thanks!

Johnny C!
Old 12-09-2004, 10:20 AM
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ORIGINAL: raycamel

....................Hmmm... gotta love tower!chuck
Uhhh, I just got an email. They shipped my mig yesterday by Fedex.(I ordered it in the wee hours of the same morning!) It'll be here tomorrow! Now WHAT do I tell my wife!!!

Hey Johnny, if that works we'll have to call it Johnny's Rule of Thumb!
Old 12-09-2004, 10:49 AM
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Juat wondering @ the $110 price does that include the throttle servo?[X(]
Kamdax Mig 15 [hr]
thanks hurricane
Old 12-09-2004, 11:00 AM
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Johnny,
Some thined epoxy works well , so ive heard in other threads, or you can glass it aso ( glassing works in your favor anyway especially if you plan on making the cheater holes ( hint) (put two small cheaters on the sides instead of one big one on the bottem)as glassing the inside ( from df forward) really reinforces it nice, other wise cutting holes in the fuse makes it weak and brittle.
later
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Old 12-09-2004, 12:55 PM
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The Mig kit does not come with a throttle servo. Apparently, the .080 upgrade
does...

Johnny C!
Old 12-09-2004, 01:40 PM
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Thank for the heads up ![sm=bananahead.gif][sm=thumbup.gif]
maybe i will do what ray camel did ,,,lol
Old 12-09-2004, 01:45 PM
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then get me one, too!
Old 12-09-2004, 01:59 PM
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I hope I can get one ,,,but ebay has tower pro 5.8g micros for $8.99 so either way I won't mind ecpecially when the price droped to $100,,
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Johnny C, I glued the mounts down first and then screwed the fan in. Your way would work too, I assume. And yes, you can easily remove the fan unit after it's been screwed down (and after the fuse has been glued togehther)! That's another thoughtful design! Just unscrew it and slide it forward and up and it comes right out. This makes it possible to clean the servo, replace the glow plug on the engine, add/remove gaskets, etc. One of te coolest things about this is that I can buy the Mirage foam parts or the F-16 foam parts, and borrow the mig unit instead of having to buy the whole kit. And believe me, I WILL be doing that when the F-16 comes out!

If you use the same battery I used, I would recommend mounting the fan on the front holes since mine was tail heavy. I wanted to pull mine forward (it's mounted on the middle holes), but I would have to cut more foam out of the top piece of fuse for the needle valve to protrude. So once you make your decision, it's pretty much there to stay unless you ugly up the top of the fuse with holes. And be careful cutting that hole! It's a little tricky, and if you don't measure off and plan it, you may end up with a pretty big hole.

I have not fuel proofed the inside of the fuse sine the foam is coated with a fuelproof paint. I left the jet overnight without cleaning it and when I get back to it the fuel was still just sitting in there. None of it had been absorbed. But, do as you wish.

I also haven't cut any cheaters. I will wait to determine if it needs them after I fly it a while. I'm think (and hope) it will fly fine without them.

Now, I've got to go cover that servo!

Spencer
Old 12-09-2004, 06:19 PM
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Please,
Does someone out there know what will clean that slime that comes from running a glo- engine?
does anything take this sticky sh^t off ? without ruining my plane?[sm=crying.gif]
any info would be great.
thanks
Hurricane Bill[sm=bananahead.gif][sm=thumbup.gif]
Old 12-09-2004, 06:25 PM
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If by "slime" you mean oil then windex, alcohol, vinegar, baby wipes or any glass cleaner. I've recently started using Armorall glass cleaning wipes. Whatever you use, just make sure that it is foam safe.


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