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06-30-2005, 01:52 PM
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RE: Too ugly?
So something along these lines... ? Maybe a single sheet of 3/32 for tail... with or without rudder. You know, it doesn't HAVE to have compound curves, maybe just a straight rounded section from fuse to tail, and tri-stock for the fuse box... [>:]
(Sorry 'bout the graphic- all I have is MS Paint, and a little down time.)
Edit: After looking again at my "artwork", I bet you really dont need the 4th and 5th formers... just use 1/8 sq. stock or skip them entirely. Simple=better?
(Sorry 'bout the graphic- all I have is MS Paint, and a little down time.)
Edit: After looking again at my "artwork", I bet you really dont need the 4th and 5th formers... just use 1/8 sq. stock or skip them entirely. Simple=better?
06-30-2005, 02:02 PM
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RE: Too ugly?
You've got the idea. Those moments won't work for 1/2a though. And too many formers. You ought to get some CAD software. There's still some that mirror the old free Turbocad 2D.
06-30-2005, 02:08 PM
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RE: Too ugly?
Got autocad (an older version) at home, but I can't install anything here. I'm stuck with what I got for now. [&o]
Ah, I see... Just going to rely on the sheeting to hold the tail feathers?
Even more simpler = more better!
Ah, I see... Just going to rely on the sheeting to hold the tail feathers?
Even more simpler = more better!
06-30-2005, 02:18 PM
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RE: Too ugly?
I was kind of thinking, horizontal stab on the bottom of the rear fuse, instead of on top cessna style... but then you gotta watch out for the ground. [X(]
Kind of wondering about the neg. incidence on the wing also, maybe that's just an illusion due to the symmetrical airfoil....
Landing gear optional? (of course.)
Kind of wondering about the neg. incidence on the wing also, maybe that's just an illusion due to the symmetrical airfoil....
Landing gear optional? (of course.)
06-30-2005, 02:55 PM
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RE: Too ugly?
Ted, I'll get right on that. Should have it ready tonight. Look for a new thread. I'll try to remember and pm you.
cwrr5, there's no negative incidence. Promise! The horizontal will go into a slit in the side of the fuse or in place of sheeting beneath the vertical stab.
Landing gear? What's that? An empty fuel tank?
btw, it's a semi-symmetrical airfoil.
cwrr5, there's no negative incidence. Promise! The horizontal will go into a slit in the side of the fuse or in place of sheeting beneath the vertical stab.
Landing gear? What's that? An empty fuel tank?
btw, it's a semi-symmetrical airfoil.
06-30-2005, 03:42 PM
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RE: Too ugly?
pt:
No time for speed now. Just finished cutting out the pieces and making a kit of the "190D9" (w/Ace wing, I figure it looks more like a D9 model than a TA152. Still need to make doublers (what do you think, ply or balsa - fuse is 1/8in balsa). Then will begin assembly. Hopefully, it will be ready by next weekend. Just received first Cox shipment, so I have some spare production engines for the D9. Also, I got some more stuff from Larry D. (thanx Larry). That reminds me, I need another lgt receiver - need to make order.
"More Cessna-like": Just as you said; use 1/4-1/2 inch triangle stock up-front, top and bottom of fuse. Continue bottom t-stock to behind wing shadow - box to tail. Now break the edges of the t-stock. I agree with you - it will make a round fuse similar to Cessna. It probably will look more like a Cessna than a Cessna.
No time for speed now. Just finished cutting out the pieces and making a kit of the "190D9" (w/Ace wing, I figure it looks more like a D9 model than a TA152.
Still need to make doublers (what do you think, ply or balsa - fuse is 1/8in balsa). Then will begin assembly. Hopefully, it will be ready by next weekend. Just received first Cox shipment, so I have some spare production engines for the D9. Also, I got some more stuff from Larry D. (thanx Larry). That reminds me, I need another lgt receiver - need to make order."More Cessna-like": Just as you said; use 1/4-1/2 inch triangle stock up-front, top and bottom of fuse. Continue bottom t-stock to behind wing shadow - box to tail. Now break the edges of the t-stock. I agree with you - it will make a round fuse similar to Cessna. It probably will look more like a Cessna than a Cessna.
06-30-2005, 04:12 PM
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RE: Too ugly?
PT,
Must be nice to have soft grass to land on! Stuff we got(back home) eats planes whole, and is a suitable substitute for razor blades.
Kind of curious how sand is for a landing surface, although wouldn't want to get any in the engine! Glad to hear about the incidence - thought that might get rather interesting in a hurry.
Must be nice to have soft grass to land on! Stuff we got(back home) eats planes whole, and is a suitable substitute for razor blades.
Kind of curious how sand is for a landing surface, although wouldn't want to get any in the engine! Glad to hear about the incidence - thought that might get rather interesting in a hurry.
06-30-2005, 05:30 PM
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RE: Too ugly?
WAAA? 1/8 balsa fuse sides?! You don't need doublers with that much meat! At the most, vertical grain 1/16. You want to borrow some brass tubes to cut lightening holes?
cwrr5, we've got grass or runway to choose from. I can only imagine that the sand would get in everything. 'Specially if it's like the beach sand that we have...
cwrr5, we've got grass or runway to choose from. I can only imagine that the sand would get in everything. 'Specially if it's like the beach sand that we have...
07-01-2005, 03:04 PM
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RE: Too ugly?
Here's an update. Not too much left. The front has 1/2 triangle, the rear has 1/4. That should allow plenty of carving up front for a more "cessna" look.
07-01-2005, 06:43 PM
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cwrr5, we've got grass or runway to choose from. I can only imagine that the sand would get in everything. 'Specially if it's like the beach sand that we have...
Biggest beach in the world. [8D]Plans look good, anyone else planning to build one(or more)?
07-01-2005, 10:06 PM
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36" span. Holiday time! I'll finish detailing the plans next week. You guys have a good 4th! I've got to both bottle some brew AND drink some...
07-01-2005, 10:12 PM
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RE: Too ugly?
Oh yeah, thanks for the input! I feel better about this plan already. My gut feeling is that it'll be a pretty one! Who would build one if I put an Interceptor kit up as the prize for best looking a/c? We could put a poll up and allow voting.
BTW, an Interceptor is a .25-.46 delta. One of my BEST works.
BTW, an Interceptor is a .25-.46 delta. One of my BEST works.
