Do planes like the Wee Sick and Page Boy, fly better with a 010 or 020?

Yep.

Sorry. I couldn't resist the "yep."

Kinda depends. If you wanna fly 'em single channel/RO, probably the TD .010 might be the most fun or maybe a Pee Wee .020 because it will climb and fly slower. But you'll need to build light - particularly for the .010.

If you want more speed and the ability to carry more servos for rudder and elevator control, the TD .020 will likely satisfy where the .010 would be marginal. (I've had a couple of 2-channel Littlest Sticks powered with .010s. They did OK but not as "frisky" as Bobhh's TD .020 Wee Stick. My electrified Wee Stick flies darn good).

The above represents the opinion of the writer only and is not expected to agree with any other contributor. Afterall, "performance" is in the eye of the beholder and is not subject to mathematical perfection. That's what I think and I'll stick to it. (But you might get a better answer from Bobhh).

Got in before the edit.

Like our famous Raymond says the Wee Stick is a throw off of the Littliest Stick by Ace. Originally set up for single channel pulser with Tee Dee .010. It will fly with 2 servos and a Tee Dee .010 well but the .020 will give better response. I have a Wee Stick with a Baby Bee .020 that is single channel and is quite hot. My original Wee Stick with 4 channels and Tee Dee .020 is a rocket and a ball to fly! The Page Boy is a bit smaller and the Tee Dee .010 flies it great with 2 channels and GWS receiver. Both have a gazillion flights and will be at the 1/2a flyin again next month!! Come on down and give them a try!!

Bob Harris

Darn ole Bob! His models always come out lighter and way nicer looking than my grubby junk. His engines run better too. AND he flies better. But other than that you have to take his recommendations with a grain of salt. "Famous Raymond" indeed. Hez the guy you should listen to. I've seen his four-channel Wee Stick in the air. Its a good thing I wasn't holding (clutching) the transmitter - and I kinder like the little brds to be "sprightly" if you know what I mean.

But having said all of that, what the heck is a "baby bee .020"? I thought there were only two flavors of Cox .020, TD and Pee Wee. How can I be "famous" if I'm even more ignorant than I admit to?

Pee Wee, Baby Bee, one of those Bees!! It is just a .020!! Just one of those elderly things I guess!!

Bob Harris

Dewey,
Having built several Pageboys I can relate my experience. All were built per Ken Willard’s original plans as published in MAN, i.e. single channel, same down thrust, incidence, etc. Ken didn’t state an all up weight in his article but the super-regen Otarion receiver and rubber band escapement was light weight even by today’s standards. He stated that the .010 was too powerful for the Pageboy so he suggested that the prop be installed backwards or else use the 3-bladed .020 prop to cut down the zip. Unfortunately the postage stamp sized Otarion was soon rendered useless (interference caused by the CB craze) and so I used the newer but HEAVER proportional super-het Ace Commander/Adams Baby actuator on the first one. The increased wing loading meant that it had to be flown with kid gloves to avoid a stall and the inevitable spin to terra firma. However with the .010 peaked and with a little altitude, a two turn spin (to build up airspeed) would allow it to loop, do consecutive rolls, etc. LOTS of fun back when most guys considered .010 R/C not just a novelty but impossible! Especially with rudder only. A real crowd pleaser. I was hooked.

Fast forward 40 years.

With today’s micro gear a Pageboy should come in at about 4.0 to 4.2 oz. At that weight you have a Tiger by the tail. I doubt that even Ken could fly it with the old rubber band escapement without restricting the .010. It will do consecutive loops while GAINING altitude right from launch. With proportional rudder it is (barely) controllable as long as you are one jump ahead of it. I guarantee a real blast just for the price of some balsa from the scrap box. Try one.

Oh, by the way Dewey, if you are thinking rudder only then needless to say the .020 would be way too much. I have never tried one with multi-channel. But that isn’t what it was designed for.
Al

For a PeeWee020 theres allways Bob Coons " Guided Mite"
Stewart

Thanks Bob and AL for correcting me about the Pageboy's power requirements. But now they've whetted my apetite for an .010 powered version (maybe with an elevator though) since I have a NIB black-case engine glaring at me cuz its not in a model.

But then there's the Guided Mite reference and durned if that isn't one of my favorite designs (I've scaled plans for an electric powered profile version that needs to get built too). Oh when will youse-all quit planting these ideas/dreams in my head?!

Raymond,
Heres a scaled Guided mite for electric, I have 3 different plan sizes in Pdf files if youed like them, The original, 14"span electric, 7 3/4"electric.
Stewart

Holy guacamole! SGC you have struck a nerve (and a scary coincidence).

I just ordered (like a couple of hours ago!) the Micro Joule, one li-po rcvr, esc, and two servos from Hobby Shack (they have a sale on). And I'm thinking that this together with an M-20 motor and a battery in the 250 - 300 mah range might be a match for your 14-inch Guided Mite - smaller, larger? whatcha think?

Wait a minit. Did I download the profile Guided Mite plans from your site?

That looks cool Stewart..Might be something, to build with ,the Guts ,from one of those Air Hog Aero Ace planes.

Raymond, the 14" 3d fuse model would suit your gear , the profile plan uses magnetic actuators, as does the MiMi pictured above.
The GM plans, and MicroMite-7 3/4" can be dounloaded from the Bradleys site :- http://www.parmodels.com/ralphs_models.htm the MiMi (mini mite) 5" span,flying weight 9grams. I think was posted on rcgroups , theres a thread in the indoor n micro models section.
Stewart