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Old 09-14-2006, 08:05 PM
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Default Norvel .061 which ARF

Built from scratch Pylon racer but interested in ARF or kit for the .061 Norvel - any ARF or kits out there - flew the scratch build but was not very good in flight.

Any info is appreciated.

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Old 09-14-2006, 08:11 PM
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Default RE: Norvel .061 which ARF

Hey Coop, not much in the way of ARF's unless you convert a parkflyer..there are kits..Quantum models and thundertiger4u carry the Ace simple series ,,there are a few mistakes on the ttforu site..about 10 models ...Rog
most all of them are for .049-.07
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http://www.thundertiger4u.com/airpla...-c-28_131.html

link to the simple series from Ace...
Old 09-14-2006, 08:23 PM
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Default RE: Norvel .061 which ARF

Thanks - going to check them out

Was a little nervous tonight but it definelty gets you going

thanks

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Old 09-14-2006, 08:26 PM
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Default RE: Norvel .061 which ARF

Very cool - thanks - Has anyone put a Norvel on them - like the ME-109
Old 09-14-2006, 08:53 PM
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Default RE: Norvel .061 which ARF

One more question - has anyone tried the Shrike kit with a Norvel engine.

any info is appreciated

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Old 09-14-2006, 09:40 PM
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The 1/2A Shrike:

Pros:

Wicked quick
Inexpensive -- $25 from [link=http://www.quantummodels.com]Quantum Models[/link]
A real hoot
No setup time at the field -- fuel and go.

Cons:

Wicked quick
Not a second plane or for faint of heart
Can be a handful on launch - will snap if not on your toes
Non-standard construction due to thru fuselage spar and wings being built integral with fuselage; must be careful with alignment
Due to speed, flutter can be immediately destructive
Internal space is tight

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Old 09-15-2006, 06:46 AM
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Default RE: Norvel .061 which ARF

Great info guys - thanks for help

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Default RE: Norvel .061 which ARF

Coop you wanna stay away from the shrike...until your 5th plane or so... the low price also reflects the $20 worth of hardware your gonna need to put that thing together..the other thing I didnt pro in with the simple series is they have some of the best (well most complete) hardware packages in the business,,I'm sure anyone who's built one will agree...Rog

http://www2.mailordercentral.com/quantummodels/

this is the other site, a bit strange to navigate go to manufacters and go to Ace and then click on aircraft..a bit better descriptions of the planes...
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Default RE: Norvel .061 which ARF

Coop,
On the other hand- if you have much flying experence the Shrike as a blast and maybe the best airplane for just speed fun there is.
Put a Norvel .061 on the nose of the 1/2 A and it goes were you point it- great fun to race as well.
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Coop --

If you want fast, but on a more conventional planform, look at the ACE Simple 400, Lanier Dominator 200 or the SIG Hummer. The Simple 400 and Hummer are available from Quantum Models. Tower has the Dominator - may be built with a V-tail or conventional R/E.
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Old 09-15-2006, 11:42 AM
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Default RE: Norvel .061 which ARF

Guys - thanks for all the info - I am trying to upload a pic of my scratch build - I have a feeling it will not last long - was very unstable and was also new motor.

Thanks

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Old 09-15-2006, 12:23 PM
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Default RE: Norvel .061 which ARF

That's a nice looking plane. Do you only have one aileron? Be sure to check your balance too.

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Default RE: Norvel .061 which ARF

Thanks - little rough - my first scratch build - running one aileron and need to check CG - last night had several helping and many suggestions - some said 1 - 2 inches back for CG
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Default RE: Norvel .061 which ARF

Do you have any recomendations for CG location ??

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Default RE: Norvel .061 which ARF

You can start at 25% to 30% of the chord, see how it flies and adjust from there for your tastes.

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Default RE: Norvel .061 which ARF

Start at 20 to 22% of chord, then move back if you want more pitch sensitivity. If it is a little squirrelly, your CG may currently be back a little too far.


I'll compromise with Hogflyer at 25% --

Check your present percentage -- if it's a handful now, I would move it forward.
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Default RE: Norvel .061 which ARF

Thanks - excellent info -

Ok I am new at this - what would you recommend for starter - are you using standard starters or 1/2 a starters - where is the best source for decent yet reasonable starters.

I was using a friends starter last night

thanks

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Default RE: Norvel .061 which ARF

cooper,

I was afraid it was only one aileron. In your case you have it on the wrong side of the wing. You want it so it's on the outside of your lap so the drag it makes helps keep your nose up as you make your turns. As for CG I would start at 25% also.


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Tim

Thanks - my helper also noticed this last night - I guess I will be just test flying ths machine
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Default RE: Norvel .061 which ARF

checked my CG - It was very tail heavy - moved battery added little lead - at 20 - 25%


Ordered the Sullivan starter - waiting for weather and starter

thanks for info and help


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