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Old 11-12-2006, 10:05 PM
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Default 1/2A skylane photos

Here are some photos of My latest Goldberg ½ A Skylane, it is covered with eski silk with base coats of Sig Nitrate, and finished with Sig Butyrate. I have been experimenting with T-shirt transfers for the graphics and it shows some promise. The plane is powered with a E-Flite 350 outrunner and a 1500 2 cell Lipo pack. First flight is yet to be made.. The ½A Skylane was my first radio control model back in 69 or 70 with Cox 051 for power and a citizenship single channel escapement rig. I crashed it on the first flight and rebuilt it with a world engines Digit Midget single channel digital proportional rig, and had several successful flights with that configuration. I have sense built 2 62” skylanes and have another under construction.
















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Old 11-12-2006, 10:24 PM
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Default RE: 1/2A skylane photos

Absolutely beautiful, tweedy! I don't care what anyone says, there's just no substitute for silk and dope. Nothing comes close to the look. What I can't understand is why so many people think iron-on plastic film is easier to use. It's not. And it never looks anywhere near as good. You have a great model there. Keep us posted on the first flights.
Old 11-12-2006, 10:45 PM
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Default RE: 1/2A skylane photos

Thanks for the kind comments I agree that nothing looks like a silk and dope finish but now days I am glad to see someone just build a model with all the ARF stuff out there I was in Hobby People the other day and with the exception of a 2X4 Glider and some Guillow's and peck rubber stuff they did not have a single kit in the store no wonder we are raising a generation of kids that can't even read a tape measure
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I apologize for sounding overly critical of plastic film. I use iron-on fabric on some models, myself. I just get enthusiastic when I see people taking the little extra bit of time to use superior materials like that. I also understand that some people have to avoid dope for health reasons. We're all doing this for fun, but, still, I think a person should be commended for keeping a dying art alive.
Old 11-13-2006, 01:45 AM
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Love the pics, great dope job.

One thing though, Is that a fake cox cylinder in the front of it? There is no way that eflite has started making their outrunners as look alikes for cox engines..........
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Tweedy,
Excellent craftsmanship! I bow to a master.
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Default RE: 1/2A skylane photos

It would not look like a 1/2 A Skylane without a Cox Cylinder
Old 11-13-2006, 09:28 AM
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Gorgeous. Thanks for sharing those shots.

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The fake cylinder looks a little tacky in my opinion. When looking at a model, I prefer that all the attached parts have a purpose, and a dummy engine does nothing for aerodynamics and adds unnecessary weight. Take out the .049 "look alike" cylinder, and you'll still have just as much 1/2A Cessna as you did with it, and it'll look more realistic in flight too. The paint job and workmanship are excellent otherwise.

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NorfolkSouthern, when I think of this plane, I think of the original box art which showed the Cox engine poking up through the cowling. I have to agree that it's just an integral part of the overall design.
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Default RE: 1/2A skylane photos

tweedy,

Great job. Did you spray or brush the colors on? Also how did you do the aileron/flap/door outlines?

I like the Cox cylinder on it - keeps with the heritage of the original.

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Default RE: 1/2A skylane photos

oh ya, i like the cylinder as well. it does make it look cool.
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Default RE: 1/2A skylane photos

I used a fine line inking pen for the ailerons and flap outlines between coats of nitrite. the graphics on the fuselage were neather brushed or sprayed I Drew them using DeltaCad following the artwork on the plans and printed them out on T-shirt transfer paper you can get at Staples or Office Depot. I ironed the silk on using the transfer sandwiched between the silk and the fuselage It was purely a experimental process but it shows promise an seems to take the dope OK if you notice I got the Cessna roundels on the rudder slanted the wrong way. I think the Cylinder stays, it was my intent to make it look like a Goldberg 1/2 a Skylane if I wanted it to look scale I would have fattend the fuselage and painted it repositioned the Stab, maby sheeted the wings and stab etc.etc.
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Beautiful model! I love the silk and dope. Did you have any issues with the silk not shrinking using the nitrate? I use nitrate for wood sufaces to keep from warping but Butyrate for silk. Maybe I will try nitrate next time.

BTW, I think it would fly better with the electric motor removed and a REAL Cox engine installed!!!! Ha!

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Default RE: 1/2A skylane photos

nitrite does not shrink as powerfully that is part of the reason I finished with a few coats of butyrate the other is as you suggested behind the e-flite mount is a firewall with blind nuts installed ready for a cox if the electric does not work out and I wanted a fuel proof finish just in case.
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Privateer ??
Old 11-13-2006, 10:13 PM
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Default RE: 1/2A skylane photos

Is there plans and templates available for the Cessna? What weight or brand of silk is that? Very nice!
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yep the Super 15 60" Span copyright 1960 am scratch building using the kit parts as templates
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ORIGINAL: jetpack

Is there plans and templates available for the Cessna?
See the offer in [link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3460321/anchors_3460321/mpage_1/key_skylane/anchor/tm.htm#3460321]this thread [/link] by Skylane42.

He also has a [link=http://members.aol.com/skylane42/index.html]website[/link] where the plans are available as a FTP download. Check the second FTP link about 1/3 down the page: FTP for Controlline Stuff. The plans are in a zip file. He has drawn a flat plate stab, but with the outline, a ribbed stab would be easy enough to cobble up.
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ya I forgot he has plans that are a pretty close replca the main differance is the sheet stab
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Default RE: 1/2A skylane photos

I love it! Craftsmansip, covering and the dummy cylinder too.
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If my mind isn`t too far gone.. the Skylane 42 did not have a full engine cowl, it used an open bay type installation.
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Default RE: 1/2A skylane photos

yes but then I would not have had a place to mount the dummy Cox cylinder I guess I could have mounted it directly to the outrunner electric motor but I think that might cause some vibration problems I could get around the vibration problems by not having any cowl at all and mounting seven cylinders around the outrunner but I don't recall seeing many Skylanes with WWI rotary engines on them either

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