Go Back  RCU Forums > RC Airplanes > "1/2 A" & "1/8 A" airplanes
Reload this Page >

DNU Twin modification (CAD)

Community
Search
Notices
"1/2 A" & "1/8 A" airplanes These are the small ones...more popular now than ever.

DNU Twin modification (CAD)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-29-2007, 11:58 AM
  #1  
ptulmer
Senior Member
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (5)
 
ptulmer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Brunswick, GA
Posts: 4,867
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default DNU Twin modification (CAD)

It was too long in coming! I've wanted to do a reedie twin for a long time. Here's a peek at the drawing. My website is thoroughly goofed up at the moment, so it won't be posted anytime soon. If you're interested, let me know by PM. This could easily be retrofitted to an existing wing, which is what I plan on doing.
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Zx70688.jpg
Views:	12
Size:	17.4 KB
ID:	792849  
Old 10-29-2007, 02:00 PM
  #2  
KidEpoxy
Senior Member
 
KidEpoxy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 6,681
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: DNU Twin modification (CAD)

OUTSTANDING!

Any ballpark ideas on how much Outward thrust angle for when one quits?
I remember one guy (Ed?) runs some birds with a ton, like 8deg ... which looks kinds silly up close.

I cant really tell from the posted pic, will a Fuji tank fit in the nacelle?
Did you have a specific tank in mind?

And lastly, would you recomend any beefing the spars if we extend the wing 1 Bay each side for some more sqaures for the added weight & speed/Gs?
Old 10-29-2007, 02:54 PM
  #3  
ptulmer
Senior Member
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (5)
 
ptulmer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Brunswick, GA
Posts: 4,867
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: DNU Twin modification (CAD)

Kid, you could wait until mine is test flown and see 'fer sure, but I doubt it will need much if any as long as SS's are used. To tell the truth, I'd kiss the fella that could get me a counter pitch 5x3 Cox prop so I could run the engines in opposing directions! But just in case, I'm fitting some SS's with throttle sleeves. I was going to use an aluminum ball with a hole in it down the choke tube to simply cut throttle, but changed my mind after having some Brit go "phfffft" in my ear when I said that.

The tank I used for dimensions is the 1oz Sullivan slant tank. A fuji would fit, I'm sure.

Extending the wing wouldn't be necessary, but would add some cargo capacity. If you do extend it, use a basswood or spruce spar. (not balsa!) A spruce spar the size of the DNU's works all the way up to a .15 size airplane.
Old 10-29-2007, 04:33 PM
  #4  
KidEpoxy
Senior Member
 
KidEpoxy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 6,681
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: DNU Twin modification (CAD)

I hear ya on the Pusher Prop,
the 3blade is a 5x3 and the 3blade pusher is 5x3.5
like they are just trying to make things difficult.

maybe that would work, but the twin sound would sure warble like StevieNicks on PCP
Old 10-29-2007, 05:18 PM
  #5  
skaliwag
My Feedback: (1)
 
skaliwag's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Corralitos CA
Posts: 2,469
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default RE: DNU Twin modification (CAD)

PT... I was going to tell ya I had one but then I read the Kussing part.
Old 10-29-2007, 09:57 PM
  #6  
ptulmer
Senior Member
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (5)
 
ptulmer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Brunswick, GA
Posts: 4,867
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: DNU Twin modification (CAD)

Don't worry Steve, the airline tickets have gone up too much (triple!). I would have given you the kiss at Hops and Props. Which two props would match up? I've got the three blade pusher, but not a two blade. (nor a three blade tractor...)
Old 10-30-2007, 12:40 AM
  #7  
injunnut1
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Cocoa, FL
Posts: 265
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: DNU Twin modification (CAD)

The Grish 5.5 x 3 tractor and pusher props work well on Cox twin engine projects. Also you might try the Cox 6 x 2 black pusher prop along with the Cox 6 x 3 black tractor ...... the 6 x 2 prop is the one as used on the RTF Cox PT-19 Ukie models. The Cox 6 x 3 tractor prop is actually much closer to 2" in pitch if you put it on a pitch gauge, as is the case on almost ALL of the (underpitched) Cox props. Technically the black 6 x 2 prop used on the Cox PT-19 model is actually a 'left-hand tractor' prop, but most people simply call it a pusher prop ..... same goes for the Grish 'pusher' props, it all has to do with the prop's 'hub design'.
Old 10-30-2007, 12:12 PM
  #8  
BMatthews
 
BMatthews's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Chilliwack, BC, CANADA
Posts: 12,425
Likes: 0
Received 22 Likes on 19 Posts
Default RE: DNU Twin modification (CAD)

Somehow the thought of two Sure Starts on a 32 inch model fills me with fear and trepidation....

Ya know what would be sort of cool? A DNU twin version sort of modelled on the old Grumman Skyrocket. Longer nacelles for balance and cut the nose short and pop on a canopy.

Or a sort of DNU twin Mosquito where the nose is about as long as the nacelles?

Or who will be first to put a twin engine wing onto a regular fuselage and have a DNU trimotor?
Old 10-30-2007, 12:22 PM
  #9  
ptulmer
Senior Member
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (5)
 
ptulmer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Brunswick, GA
Posts: 4,867
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: DNU Twin modification (CAD)


ORIGINAL: BMatthews
Or who will be first to put a twin engine wing onto a regular fuselage and have a DNU trimotor?
You've been hanging around Ray, haven't you.[&:] Since there is a spare wing in my stash and a flying airframe in my hangar, this does seem like a likely thing to happen!
Old 10-30-2007, 03:26 PM
  #10  
hogflyer
 
hogflyer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Wichita, KS
Posts: 2,037
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default RE: DNU Twin modification (CAD)

I've got some modification drawing someplace for a twin mod for the Midwest Sweet Stik (this was after the Sweet Stik and Twin Stik had been discontinued). I measured the distance from the CG to the firewall then designed the new nacelles to be 1/2 the distance to the original firewall minus 1/2" to compensate for the added weight of the nacelles themselves and the fuel tanks. Right nacelle has 8 deg. right thrust, the left has 4 deg. left thrust. Never did get around to building it - was going to be twin .40 powered. I also designed the nacelle sides to combine a full size rib so it had the strength of the full wing chord to support it, but it shouldn't be necessary with the DNU, but spruce, basswood or pins spars should be used like PTU said.

Can't wait until it's finished and flying. Lets see lots of build pictures while your at it.

Hogflyer
Old 10-31-2007, 11:31 PM
  #11  
ptulmer
Senior Member
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (5)
 
ptulmer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Brunswick, GA
Posts: 4,867
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: DNU Twin modification (CAD)

Shot of the wing with nacelles dry fit. All I gotta do is make the short ribs and install them, then it's time to cover!
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Kh17519.jpg
Views:	13
Size:	24.8 KB
ID:	794553  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.