Excelent, basically from what your saying i´m dead on the C/G I need for being able to mix 3d and the pattern (like I was practicing today)

I now only need to extend the throws out to the manuals "3d" settings and give it a real bash tomorrow... They are currently half way between "high" and "3d" as stated in the manual.. I was increasing it is small doses too..

The floating landing is a reall pain in our club, as the runway is very short and at the (whats normally for the weather here) upwind area, just at finals, is an orange grove, planted on higher ground than the runway, so there is always a last minute dive where it accelerates and foats off down the runway (most planes in the club not just mine).