Thanks guys, two good suggestions, i need to look up the focus build post, should of done it before i flew the plane. I did just make a bearing about 3/4 of the way down the pushrod shaft, what a pain.. i have shorten the push rods to as short as i can get them, maybe this will work. D-bodary how heavy are the bell Cranks, did your focus seem to come out tail heavy? and I have used airtronic servos, I had them in my Altanta, I remember now, thery were about 3/4 the size of a futaba and about half the weight. the plane is still on the heavy side even with carbon tube and landing gear..I need to stop my wining and get to work. thanks again tgreen