true , i hear ya, im working on three half tracks all the same and u end up going cross eyed after a while, lol thats when u put stuff down and walk away for a bit cause with me thats when stupid mistakes start happening, anyways ill keep an eye out at craft stores or something like that, might have some at the local hardware stores who knows, thanks for the info, how did u drive urs? did u use the unit with the dual motors from tamiya, cause im thinking about whipping up my own gearbox and canceling my order for the tamiya gears