Hi CG yes i am about 20 miles from both of those flying fields and have flown at both. I summer in the mountains of NC and am heading to North Port for the winter and will join the Venice club this year. We fly here in the mountains as well. I am a newbe and am addicted to the sport, although I have been tangled in the trees and rebuilding my planes more than I like to admit. If you get down my way shoot me an email and I will have you as a guest at the club (if you give me a few pointers). Dana