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Old 10-20-2010 | 11:04 AM
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GerKonig
 
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Default RE: An Incident with Lessons for All of Us


ORIGINAL: wahoo

<span class=''Apple-style-span'' style=''font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px; ''>Gerry,
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What blackens our eye (the way I see it) is the fact that fellow enthusiast in this great hobby are persecuting the model pilot for the fact that he was flying 3D. I mean come on guys .. He was in fact INVITED to do that.<div> </div><div>There is plenty of blame to go around here so singling out the RC pilot is an error. </div><div> </div><div>The AMA report stated<font color=''#FF0000''> ''The FS </font><span style=''font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px; ''><font color=''#FF0000''>arrived at the airpark and made a low pass down the runway.''</font> RIGHT THERE THE 'AIR-BOSS' SHOULD HAVE GROUNDED THE RC PLANE. PERIOD !!! </span></div><div><span style=''font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px; ''>
</span></div><div><font size=''3'' face=''Verdana, Arial''><span style=''font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px;''>It goes on to state <font color=''#FF0000''>''T</font></span></font><span style=''font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px; ''><font color=''#FF0000''>he biplane then flew around the traffic pattern and was presumably setting up for a landing. The RC pilot brought his aircraft back to the runway and continued his 3-D (hover) demonstration.''</font> WHY ? AGAIN THE 'AIR-BOSS' SHOULD'VE HAD THE RC LAND.</span></div><div><span style=''font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px; ''>
</span></div><div><span style=''font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px; ''>Continuing with this drama it states<font color=''#FF0000''> ''</font></span><span style=''font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px; ''><font size=''3'' color=''#FF0000''>As the biplane came around, the pilot apparently aborted his approach and decided to make a </font></span><span style=''font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: medium; color: rgb(255, 0, 0); -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px; ''>second </span><span style=''font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px; ''><font size=''3'' color=''#FF0000''>smoke-on, low pass down the runway.'' </font>FIREWALLED I MIGHT ADD. Now after the FS pilot made one low pass and knew there was a crowd and he still made the obvious choice to <font color=''#0000FF''><b size=''4''>SHOWBOAT <font color=''#000000''><span style=''font-weight: normal;''>and continue his own personal demo. So for all those that believe that the only ''showboating'' is done by those that choose to fly a ''stalled'' RC aircraft, the evidence clearly shows otherwise. </span></font>[/b]</font></span></div><div><font size=''3'' face=''Verdana, Arial''><span style=''font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px;''>
</span></font></div><div><span style=''font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px; ''><font color=''#0000FF''><b size=''4''><font color=''#000000''><span style=''font-weight: normal;''>So right there you see bad judgement in all the </span></font>[/b]</font></span><span style=''font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(0, 0, 255); -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px; ''><b size=''4''><font color=''#000000''><span style=''font-weight: normal; ''>parties</span></font>[/b]</span><span style=''font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(0, 0, 255); -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px; ''><b size=''4''><font color=''#000000''><span style=''font-weight: normal;''> involved.</span></font>[/b]</span></div><div><span style=''font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(0, 0, 255); -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px; ''><b size=''4''><font color=''#000000''><span style=''font-weight: normal;''>1: The air-boss </span></font>[/b]</span></div><div><span style=''font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(0, 0, 255); -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px; ''><b size=''4''><font color=''#000000''><span style=''font-weight: normal;''>2: The FS pilot and finally</span></font>[/b]</span></div><div><span style=''font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(0, 0, 255); -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px; ''><b size=''4''><font color=''#000000''><span style=''font-weight: normal;''>3: The RC pilot</span></font>[/b]</span></div><div><span style=''font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(0, 0, 255); -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px; ''><b size=''4''><font color=''#000000''><span style=''font-weight: normal;''>
</span></font>[/b]</span></div><div><span style=''font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(0, 0, 255); -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px; ''><b size=''4''><font color=''#000000''><span style=''font-weight: normal;''>And for everyone that stated the RC pilot needed a dedicated spotter (while this may be true), the modeler did in fact have one that I personally would feel very comfortable listening to and I'll quote it right from the AMA report.</span></font>[/b]</span></div><div><span style=''font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(0, 0, 255); -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px; ''><b size=''4''><font color=''#000000''><span style=''font-weight: normal;''><font color=''#FF0000''>''The air boss elected to proceed by communicating with the full-scale aircraft through the use of a handheld transceiver while standing at the runway’s edge, to verbally communicate with the RC pilots during the flight demonstrations.''</font> Now who better would know the intentions of the FS pilot, a dedicated spotter or someone in direct communications with him ??? </span></font>[/b]</span></div><div><span style=''font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(0, 0, 255); -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px; ''><b size=''4''><font color=''#000000''><span style=''font-weight: normal;''>
</span></font>[/b]</span></div><div><span style=''font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(0, 0, 255); -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px; ''><b size=''4''><font color=''#000000''><span style=''font-weight: normal;''>Now granted if this was a full on AIRSHOW with multiple aircraft and multiple demo's then I would have to agree with a dedicated spotter as the air-boss would have his hands full. But with only one SCHEDULED demo (42%) and one incoming FS (not scheduled) I don't see the problem. What I don't see is the intentions behind why the air-boss chose to allow the RC to continue his routine with a FS plane in the area. </span></font>[/b]</span></div><div><span style=''font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(0, 0, 255); -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px; ''><b size=''4''><font color=''#000000''><span style=''font-weight: normal;''>
</span></font>[/b]</span></div><div><span style=''font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(0, 0, 255); -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px; ''><b size=''4''><font color=''#000000''><span style=''font-weight: normal;''>We may never know.</span></font>[/b]</span></div><div><span style=''font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(0, 0, 255); -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px; ''><b size=''4''><font color=''#000000''><span style=''font-weight: normal;''>wahoo</span></font>[/b]</span></div><div><font size=''3'' face=''Verdana, Arial''><span style=''font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px;''>
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I think that the fact that the guy was a 3D pilot is irrelevant. It could have been a jet, or a 1/3 scale P-51 or a turbine chopper. IF you are on top of an active runway, and there is a FS aircraft in the air, well, common sense would dictate not to fly.
The 3D pilot was a modeller, and as such he will be seen by the general population that has no clue what 3D piloting means in the first place, so, again, the black eye was had by our hobby in general...

Gerry

Gerry