ORIGINAL: hezik
I've always been saying and thinking that it's not the engine that makes the difference, but the prop and the RPM.
For instance, the YS 170 CDI.. it's usually flown with a prop in the 18.1x11.1 range. Also the fourstroke doesn't incrrease in RPM in downlines, or at least, minor.
So in order to get real YS style flying with an electric engine, I don't think changing windings etc will get you there. I think most electric flyers fly with a way to big prop, making gyroscopic precession a problem. Props like 23x10 etc are not rare.
Also I think there has to be a change in the way ESC's brake. Most current day ESC's only really brake when the engine is 'off'.
So.. to get an YS-like experience, electric, i think we need to fly smaller props, like 18x12, 19x12 tops, and need ESC's that keep the prop spinning at the rate the throttle stick indicates. So like half-throttle is 4000 RPM, weather you're flying an upline or a downline.
if you succeeded in bringing the good qualities of an YS, specifically the braking and running with a smaller prop, to electric F3A.. you'd be my hero. I don't think however you'll really achieve that without reprogramming the ESC.
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removed my anti-YS rant, this thread is about this electric solution.
I really think the biggest gain still to be made, is in ESC software. Smoother and more lineair throttle curves, intelligent throttle monitoring, governor-like braking and, last but not least, use energy from braking to charge lipo's. We could fly smaller packs then.
I have found all this reading quite interesting.
I have just purchased an old Q80 (new to me) since it sounds like it is going an old motor now. Everybody was telling me not to run it due to the low rpm/volt. With this it would normally entail a bigger prop. I agree that the bigger props are causing problems, i believe so anyway.
What i saw at the AOC championships in the Philippines was awesome. A totally different approach to prop selection. On Hatta's Pegasus he had a very wide bladed wood prop on a Q80, what was unusual was it's size. It was a 19x13. (19x14 for the hacker 14XL)These props look almost like the old rubber powered model ones.
Now the funny part is the Japanese with there YS170's were running 20x10.5 APC props. Again these combination's were awesome, quiet and not short of power.
Bring on the new Hacker, i love all this development stuff. what will we have next?
Chris