ORIGINAL: jester_s1
opjose- you've got to be kidding with those two recommendations. 3d aerobatics airplanes for a beginner pilot? That's a good way to make sure a newcomer to the hobby gets discouraged quick and never comes back.
Not kidding at all! Have you ever TRIED them?
I HAVE... I let my ( at the time ) 5 year daughter old fly one.
You just tone down the rates and have at it.
The planes are relatively docile with the rates turned down, and they are indestructable.
She crashed the plane many times w/o problems, particularly on grass.
These are full aileron/elevator/rudder planes so there is later no "unlearning" of the bad habits picked up with a 3CH Cub, etc.
They also cut through light winds much better than some of the often recommended rudder/elevator only foamies.
They are good beginners planes though one step up in learning complexity than something like a 'Wild Hawk" ( an EasyStar equivalant )...
Cons: A bit harder to learn than an Easystar.
Pros: WHO CARES! You can't break them! ( on grass )