HOLY BAT-LOOPS! So many phd's in aeronautical engineering, over 5000hrs in full scale with half of that being in stunts. Why don't you just go fly your planes, have fun, entertain the family with a crash or two, have some chicken, then go home and watch the ball game! OR, you could round up the young and old that would like to get into the hobby and teach them to fly and have fun WITHOUT the big loops of such non-sense as this! Now, you all could join the TSA and try to figure out how to be in touch with people without being in touch with people!