Thanks mad. They say the titan is an exact copy or the trex so Iguess I will find out quickly heh. Sadly I try my hardest not to support my local hobby shop. They enjoy practicing price gouging which I could deal with except they are rude know very little and rarely have what I need in stock. Idont ask for strange things either they dont even stock traxxas parts which is what they sell. The other hobby shop which I like and do support doesnt sell planes and helis so I am pretty much on my own. Thanks for the suggestion though maybe I will order a kit like that online.