Thanks RCF, yes since that battery has been out it has pretty much dominated at our field and you look down the line it is rare to not see starters without a red battery anymore and even more unusual thank heavens to see one plugged into a power panel.

FP that type of table starter puts an entirely different type of load on the engine. It is ninety degrees to the side of the axis of rotation not in line with the axis where there are no berings to take the load or bumps.

Yes I confess I also have used that technique before in a bind as Jester indicates but it is not really something I care to recommend.

Hmm, FP loosening the glow plug, Don,t think I'd care to try that one but it sure reminds me of an old motorcycle I loved years ago that had a compression release that you pulled for kicking that big old single over. it actuated a mechanism to open the exhaust valve a bit. Sure loved that old AJS.

John